[Sloth]

OK "Sloth"...lets assume that you are aware that tips are the way a good server makes a living...and you get good service, but decide to STIFF the server regardless, you are rippin' the server off just as if you reached in their pocket...you cheap SOB.

You assume too much. I typically tip 15%+, but I find it offensive that you or anyone else thinks the server has a RIGHT to what is properly seen as a gift. I would much prefer for restaurants to raise their prices, pay their staff adequately, and let me mind my own business.

[CaptSkip]

...but I find it offensive that you or anyone else thinks the server has a RIGHT to what is properly seen as a gift...

Do you really think that the server is some kind of "slave to bring you gifts"???

Lord I hope your pulling my chain.

[BradyLS]

I agree. If waitstaff demand 20% (from the 10% I was taught many years ago) I'd like to know why. I want the math. Until then, I'm cuttin way back on eating out.