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I am not disputing who will be the victor in the end of course Jesus.

I am saying when the CAtholic and Episcopal Church looses members because of the sin they allow to happen then Satan is impacting the church

The biggest reason that people have been falling away from Catholicism and are lax in practice is lack of Catechisis. Those of us who grew up in the immediate post-Vatican II - environment, I guess - were not taught well at all. So, now we're playing catch-up. Those who remain apostate and prodigals, well, that's a different story. Actually, we're gaining more than "losing" right now.

The episcopalians I don't know anything about.

The truth is, when this broke, among a lot of Catholics, it was all no great surprise, at least among the guys. They'd tell each other to stay away from certain priests. It was an open secret. But, it did not effect people's faith, because that would be allowing men to drive one away and that is against personal faith.

The lst 18-months have been more of a purge than anything else. Hey, we're less happy about it than anyone else is.