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To: Luis Gonzalez
"They LIKE the wall of separation, the problem being that a one-sided wall is an impossible feat of engineering."

Impossible in engineering, perhaps, but this isn't engineering.

America did a really good job of maintaining a one-way flow of influence until around the 60s.
29 posted on 08/23/2003 9:57:07 AM PDT by dsc
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To: dsc
"...the establishment in question is not necessary for the support of Civil Government. If it be urged as necessary for the support of Civil Government only as it is a means of supporting Religion, and it be not necessary for the latter purpose, it cannot be necessary for the former. If Religion be not within the cognizance of Civil Government how can its legal establishment be necessary to Civil Government? What influence in fact have ecclesiastical establishments had on Civil Society? In some instances they have been seen to erect a spiritual tyranny on the ruins of the Civil authority; in many instances they have been seen upholding the thrones of political tyranny: in no instance have they been seen the guardians of the liberties of the people." -- James Madison, Memorial and Remonstrance

33 posted on 08/23/2003 10:18:19 AM PDT by Luis Gonzalez (There's no such thing as a stupid question, there are however, many inquisitive morons out there...)
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To: dsc
Bottom line is that the meaning of the Constitution is that religion may influence agents of the government, but agents of the government may not influence religion.

So, we've gotten it perfectly backwards now!
36 posted on 08/23/2003 10:37:29 AM PDT by thoughtomator (Are we conservatives, or are we Republicans?)
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