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To: Texas_Dawg
Surely it couldn't be, lady, that many evangelical Christians (and other Christians) completely disagree with this charade.

Heh.

These idiots don't seem to understand the fact that the seperation of church and state was a concept proposed, not by atheists, but by men of some religious belief. They understood from the experience in Europe that a religiously neutral government was better than a government captured by one religion or another.

11 posted on 08/23/2003 9:35:16 AM PDT by jlogajan
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To: jlogajan
It all depends on what one interprets as the state "establishing" a religion. I would think the Founders did not want a state religion, and we all would agree, but would they agree to barring the Ten Commandments from the court's chambers just because it was also part of a religioun? And BTW, do you think the Ten Commandments should be removed from the Supreme Court building? Or the references to the Creator removed from the Declaration of Independence? Please try to be consistent when you answer.

I think the Founders would be stunned to see the eradication of any mention of Judeo-Christian principles or references from government institutions.

22 posted on 08/23/2003 9:51:43 AM PDT by Pharmboy (Dems lie 'cause they have to...)
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To: jlogajan
These idiots don't seem to understand the fact that the seperation of church and state was a concept proposed, not by atheists, but by men of some religious belief. They understood from the experience in Europe that a religiously neutral government was better than a government captured by one religion or another.

The problem with your comment is that it has nothing whatsoever to do with the issues that are being raised by Judge Moore. "Seperation [sic] of Church and State" is not in the U.S. Constitution. What is in the U.S. Constitution is "CONGRESS shall make no law respecting AN establishment of religion (i.e., a CHURCH established by Congress)..." Judge Moore is not CONGRESS. Neither is he attempting to establish a CHURCH, though there is nothing in the U.S. Constitution that prohibits Alabama from establishing a state church. The Supreme Court of Alabama is not CONGRESS. The government of the State of Alabama is not CONGRESS. Therefore, the words "Congress shall make no law" in the U.S. Constitution place no limit whatsoever on any action that may be taken by anyone in the government of the State of Alabama.

Roy Moore is challenging the phony "Incorporation Doctrine"--which is not in the U.S. Constitution, either, but was fabricated by the U.S. Supreme Court in 1869.

The "Incorporation Doctrine" was and is a tool for one massive power grab after another by the federal government, principally the U.S. Supreme Court. Using this bogus device, the Supreme Court has taken over control of schools, usurped countless powers of State governments, and commanded the States to permit the slaughter of 45 million babies.

The liberals know what's at issue. Countless "conservative" people don't, which is why the crowds are sparse in Montgomery.

24 posted on 08/23/2003 9:52:23 AM PDT by Arthur McGowan
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