FOX NEWS: ALABAMA TEN COMMANDMENTS JUDGE SUSPENDED...

Drudge Report ^ | 08/22/03 | Matt Drudge

[Pokey78]

Orlando Salinas broke in a few minutes ago and announced this on Fox News.

[general_re]

Thus it appears that Congress could by means of organization reduce the offices available to be filled. That is due to the fact that there is no number associated with the federal judicial system in the Constitution.

Well, yes - there's no required number of judicial officers that must exist, either as a minimum or as a maximum. But you really can't get rid of a sitting judge simply by reorganizing in such a way as to eliminate his position. Otherwise, Congress would never need to bother with impeachment of judges - they'd be able to do an end-run around the impeachment process any time they liked, simply by reducing the number of district courts by one and selecting the sacrificial lamb to be downsized out of a job. As I said, though, the courts could be reorganized to eliminate posts that are currently vacant anyway.

[NutCrackerBoy]

It is PC to try to cleanse the courtroom of any and all references to actual history.NutCrackerBoy

Moses delivered the Ten Commandments in Alabama?Luis Gonzalez

Hee - good one. But seriously, here is what I meant.

Noone denies that historically the Ten Commandments were a moral basis for our law. But Political Correctness now forbids any acknowledgement of this for fear a Muslim will not understand his rights? Give me a break.

[ArneFufkin]

Whenever I tell my family or friends that there is a Web forum I frequent where my political views are labeled Socialist, left wing, Democrat or Liberal, they all shake their heads in wonder.

My sister Laura said: "Who runs that site, Heinrich Himmler?"

[Roscoe]

Myron Thompson weilds the force of law

Even when there's no law to wield.

[RedneckRampage]

>This is NOT a nation of Christians.

It used to be, till you heathens took control!

Redneck
- If you don't agree with us, you ain't no American

[nunya bidness]

Would you guys make up your minds?

I did. This is a state matter. Pure and simple.

Scholars have laid this to rest that the states have the authority to address the issue of religion within the confines of the several states.

The feds are moot and justifiably so. And as such, silent.

The people of Alabama will have to deal with this as state matter.

The question is: what do you care as an "on again off again" deacon?

[RedneckRampage]

>There are people in this nation besides Christians.

Right, Buddists, Vishna-worshipers, Hale-boppers, other unmentionables that I can't talk about cuz the PC patrol will kick me off this list...

>The real battle in this area is between theists and >atheists.

... and the Buddists, Vishna-worshipers, Hale-boppers, etc.


Redneck
- If you don't agree with us, you ain't no American

[Roscoe]

Heinrich Himmler was a socialist.

[WOSG]

Ah, yes, the Himmler = right-wing slander. Yes, I have a Liberal family too; often they incorrectly confuse National Socialists (Nazis) with Conservatives.
But then they like calling things disagreeable "evil",

If you ever wondered where that hate-filled-screed-writer Molly Ivins got her audience ....

[Roscoe]

Perhaps Myron (and a few of his fans) would approve of this replacement:

[ArneFufkin]

Let me say it clear:

Your Christianity, as it impacts your status as an American, carries no moral, ethical or legal superiority over a Muslim American in our political and legal system. None. You're not a better, more authentic American. You have no standing vis a vis the American of Chinese origin who is a Buddhist. Or the American who is a Sihk. Or the American who is a Hindu. Or the Atheist. Or the Pagan.

Your faith is irrelevant to your status as a fully vested American.

Keep that in mind. There's no perq for Christianity in our citizen package.

[WOSG]

Here's my idea. Put a display of Marx, Moses, Luther, Jesus in the "public space X" rotunda. Call it 'founders of religion'.
When the ACLU comes to oppose the display of the non-Marxists, put a shroud over all but Marx and leave a plaque: "This display modifed to show only Karl Marx and cover Jesus and other figures as ordered by lawsuit instigated by the ACLU."
:-)

[Roscoe]

There's no perq for Christianity in our citizen package.

Reserved for atheists?

[WOSG]

Your quite presumptuous to call me Christian. I am not, certainly not in the sense that you infer.

IMHO, atheists should be standing up and supporting Judge Moore because he represents (a) standing up against judicial tyranny, (b) free exercise and free speech rights, (c) rights of citizens in a *Federal* Republic, (d) defense of traditional cultural heritage, whose loss will hurt us all. But most importantly, this case has be very much wrongly decided and we all should support those unjustly ruled against, and advocate the proper overturning of this bad ruling.

"Your faith is irrelevant to your status as a fully vested American. " I never said otherwise; you are shadowboxing strawmen.

But isnt it wonderful that a country built, founded, and run by mostly Christians for over 200 years is open to people of these other religions. We do not see much such freedom in the heritage of China, nor Islam, nor Buddhism (viz Japan), nor Hinduism, until western and Christian influence came to them. They can come to *our* shores and enjoy the freedoms derived from *our* heritage, a heritage based on Christianity amongst other influences. I do not think at all that a thinking American of *any* persuasion would be so narrow-minded as to be offended by a small public monument that reflected that heritage, any more than the "Zeus-like" Lincoln memorial.

And arent you a thinking American? Are you really "put out" by this display? The one that has this:
Shaped like a cube, this four-foot-tall monument displays the Ten
Commandments on the top. Each of the four sides of the cube features
famous American words: "Laws of nature and of nature's God" from the
Declaration of Independence (1776), "In God we Trust" from our national
motto (1956), "One nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and
justice for all" from our Pledge of Allegiance (1954), and "So help me
God" from the oath of office in the Judiciary Act (1789).

[WOSG]

The ACLU and the secularists are certainly angling for "favored ideology status".

[ArneFufkin]

Maybe you should tattoo the Commandments on your forearm Roscoe, they'll be right there for guidance.

You must be a 24X7 temptation magnet.

[ArneFufkin]

defense of traditional cultural heritage, whose loss will hurt us all.

DOH!

[Technogeeb]

I did notice that this was succinct and irrefutable.

Irrefutable is probably too strong a word. Technically, "Luis Gonzalez" is correct (the text "Jesus Christ" doesn't appear), but there is a mention of Jesus in at least one of the "Founding Documents", although I have my doubts that any of the three of you can find it.

[Technogeeb]

Can you imagine what is going through the mind of an American Sikh going into a court of law before Roy Moore wearing his religious headdress, assuming that he will be protected by his inalienalbe Constitutional rights as an American to a fair trial, jury of peers, reasonable bail ... and see upon entering the Courthouse a featured monument of Christian Affirmation - oh good Timir learns, it was placed in the center of the courthouse by the judge who will be deciding his case

You picked a very bad example; Guru Nanak embraced much of Judaism even while rejecting many of the corruptions of the Mohammedans; a Sikh would find all but one of the 10 commandments in his teachings, the only exception being the "sabbath" (Sikhs believe every day is holy and should be spent serving God).