FOX NEWS: ALABAMA TEN COMMANDMENTS JUDGE SUSPENDED...

Drudge Report ^ | 08/22/03 | Matt Drudge

[Pokey78]

Orlando Salinas broke in a few minutes ago and announced this on Fox News.

[jwalsh07]

Oh yeah. But I also see it as a dividing line between those who support an overly strong central government and those who support freedom, states rights.

[jethropalerobber]

i've got a better idea.

why don't you pass an amendment to repeal the parts of the US and alabama constitution that offend you?

the power is with the people, after all.

[wardaddy]

Unfortunately, they have a "special feast"each night.

Nation of Islam also has a special before daylight breakfast.

I'm not sure why they call it a fast. If that's all it takes, I'm in Ramadan most of the time.

[floriduh voter]

Fox News Poll: 95% of Alabamans agree with Judge Moore.
8-22-03. Think they are p-od about now?

[concerned about politics]

What do we do when a court district's population becomes majority Muslim, and they VOTE to outlaw public practice of Christianity and public display of any Christian symbols on private property...and so on, and so on?

Can't. Private property is "suppose" to be private, unless the politically correct facist litigate away the right to property (They're trying). Give the anti-Christ 666 supporters long enough, and they'll take care of that for the muslims.

[concerned about politics]

Jane Doe v. Santa Fe, a federal judge ruled that graduation prayers must not include any mention of “Jesus” or other “specific deities” and that any student offering such a prayer would face immediate arrest and up to six months in jail. The judge threatened “violators” by saying they would wish they “had died as a child” once his court finished with them.

666

[strela]

why does someone always have to bring up snake handlers

"Snakes ... why does it have to be snakes?" Indiana Jones

how many are there??...a few hundred? thousand?

How many are there of the Jack Chick kooks who run around burning copies of Harry Potter books? The numbers aren't important - the fact that the state has no business espousing one particular religion over another is.

Has Judge Moore been accused of snake handling?

Irrelevant.

Do you know anything about the man himself and his own personal history?

I don't care if he's a combination of Madame Curie and Mahatma Gandhi - by refusing to obey the court order, he spits on the rule of law he swore to uphold.

[concerned about politics]

Well, the prisons keep Ramadan because they save money on food during the fasting period. And conversions to islam take place in prison every day. Whatta country!

And the muslum prayer rooms set aside for muslim students in the "public" schools in NY.

[Dog Gone]

Okay, race is over. 13 pretty nifty wrecks and a bunch of drivers blaming each other. Pretty good for a Friday night, and it will only get more wild tomorrow night for th Cup race.

But back to your point, (and I haven't read past your post I'm responding to, so I apologize if I'm addressing something I haven't seen yet), but I will happily concede that Jefferson, and maybe even Madison, would not have approved of how far the courts have gone in restricting the government with regard to religion. Madison, I'm not so sure about.

Jefferson's biggest goal was religious liberty, and so he wanted the government to interfere as little as possible in that realm. Whether he would have objected to Judge Moore's monument is doubtful, but it's not entirely out of the question. He would have worried about it a little, I think. He was a religious man, but he was deeply fearful of a national governmental role in it.

But you have to understand that nearly all my posts on this matter are based on what the law is today. Not what it was 200 years ago, and not what the Founders may have thought. That's certainly relevant and what should BE the most important consideration.

What Jefferson said or did is very important. But they are principles, not commandments.

My personal philosophy is much like Jefferson's, I think. I want religious liberty for myself and everyone else. And I think the government should butt out.

The unanswered question is how far....

[Windcatcher]

Me, no. 50%+1 of the voters, okay. As long as I'm free to pick up and leave if the result is unacceptable to me, I'm fine with it. We either have the right to govern ourselves or we don't. Personally, I'd rather live in a country where ordinary people at least have the opportunity rather than being ruled by a "wiser" elite.

[Kevin Curry]

The Koran will be recited openly in the halls of justice in this nation before the Ten Commandments will ever be tolerated. It isn't religion per se that liberals and atheists despise--but religion founded on Judeao-Christian principles..

[wardaddy]

Irrelevant.

Yes...it is. So why'd you bring it up?

[concerned about politics]

Canada also wants the same. The anti-Christ could be closer than you think.

Yep. The homos want the Bible outlawed, and any preacher that teaches it arrested for hate speach.
The Pope even said the anti-Christ is alive and well (Fatima sister info).

"Look up,......"

"Blessed are those who read this prophacy, AND OBSERVE THE THINGS WRITTEN IN IT, for the appointed time is near."

[Beck_isright]

Me thinkst we are in those appointed times now...

[PatrioticAmerican]

"What's more, I respect the beliefs of other people. Roy Moore doesn't."

Ya got hat backwards: People like yourself don't respect him. You don't want his religions statements displayed, although you wouldn't mind the words if they weren't from the Bible.

It is nothing but Fascist propaganda when people say they respect others but that others should keep to themselves and stay silent, or else. "We respect religion, we just don't want it in any form in any part of anyone's life." Strange the definition of "respect".

[gsrinok]

I don't care if he's a combination of Madame Curie and Mahatma Gandhi - by refusing to obey the court order, he spits on the rule of law he swore to uphold.

The rule of law is not necessarily the spirit of the law. Judge Moore also swore to uphold the Constitution, and the edict from the federal judiciary to remove the monument is certainly against the spirit of the Constitution. Our founders would be embarrassed to see what a bunch of ignorant trolls our federal jurists have become.

[floriduh voter]

Sore loserman stickers? Bookstore? Had some left over did you? I had a sign with a picture of Algor with a punkinhead. It's here somewhere in my campaign 2000 collection.

[concerned about politics]

Fox News Poll: 95% of Alabamans agree with Judge Moore.
8-22-03. Think they are p-od about now?

Good. They vote. Those who usually don't may start.
The Lord works in mysterious ways.
I'd like to see a poll on national opinion out of curiosity.

[Windcatcher]

Have you ever read the book Bias? It talks about a lot of different issues, but one was a real eye-opener. It concerned racial issues, especially affirmative action, quotas, race-based entitlements, etc. Basically that whole category. The author (an admitted Democrat) raised the point that modern liberals (as opposed to himself, which he termed a "classical" liberal) base their opinions vis-a-vis this issue on guilt. The way he put it, they're white, they're glad they're white, and for that they feel guilty. He asserts that they try to (perhaps subconciously) assuage their guilt by trying to lavish things on people who are underprivileged (or are at least seen that way). Could this be the same phenomenon? Liberal Christians (primarily white Christians) who feel guilty for being in the religious (and racial) majority and are trying to assuage their guilt by cutting their own religion down and "uplifting" the "minority religions"? Still sounds like psycholigically sick behavior to me, but...could this be their twisted reasoning?

[jethropalerobber]

Why do you think he was tried and crucified?

...a topic of much debate.