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Christian Churches Should Stop Using the Cross, Group Says
CNSNews.com ^ | 8/22/03 | Jeff Johnson

Posted on 08/22/2003 2:54:22 AM PDT by kattracks

Capitol Hill (CNSNews.com) - An interfaith group founded by Unification Church leader Sun Myung Moon is spearheading an effort to have Christian ministers remove crosses from their churches, calling them a symbol of oppression and perceived superiority. Mainstream Christian leaders call the request "outrageously bigoted."

The American Clergy Leadership Conference (ACLC), an organization that began as a project of Moon's Family Federation for World Peace and Unification (FFWPU), believes the key to "true and lasting peace in the Middle East" is reconciliation between members of the world's three largest religions.

"Jews, Christians and Muslims must come together to heal divisions of the past, to stand together in a moment of repentance and reconciliation, and thus, tear down the walls that separate us as people of faith," said Archbishop George Augustus Stallings, Jr., of the independent Imani Temple African American Catholic congregation in Washington, D.C.

The ACLC held a symposium in New York Thursday on Jewish-Christian-Muslim reconciliation and Middle East peace entitled "Harmony Amongst the Children of Abraham." Stallings, who serves as national chairman of the executive committee of the ACLC, told CNSNews.com by telephone that part of that reconciliation involves assessing how Christian traditions are perceived by people of other faiths.

"We have realized that, as expressions of faith, there are certain symbols that have stood in the way," Stallings said. "The cross has served as a barrier in bringing about a true spirit of reconciliation between Jews and also between Muslims and Christians, and thus, we have sought to remove the cross from our Christian churches across America as a sign of our willingness to remove any barrier that stands in the way of us coming together as people of faith."

Michael Schwartz of Concerned Women for America - a biblically based, public policy women's organization - was shocked at Stallings' assessment.

"If a Christian objected to a Star of David or a Crescent, we would know that person is a bigot. When a Jew or Muslim objects to the display of the cross by Christians, we know the same thing about that person," Schwartz said. "To tear down our religious symbols, to uproot our traditions is not the way to reconciliation, but rather, to recognize with respect, our own and the traditions of others is the way to true reconciliation.

"Just imagine if some misguided Christian were to suggest that the Jews have to take away their symbol and the Muslims would have to take away their symbol, not display it in public any longer," Schwartz continued. "That would be identified instantly as a statement of intolerance. Reconciliation and peace do not grow out of intolerance."

Cross is symbol of 'religious intolerance, forced conversions...racism'

Stallings acknowledges that the cross is central to teaching people about the saving grace offered through Christ's death and resurrection but, he argued, Christians have also used the cross to send other messages.

"We have held up this cross in the face of Jews to say, 'If it had not been for your rejection of Jesus, our Messiah would never have been crucified," Stallings added. "We also know that the cross has stood as a barrier in Christian-Muslim relationships because we have held up our cross as a superior faith, that we - as Christians - are superior over the Muslims."

Stallings added that "a history of religious intolerance, forced conversions, inquisitions and even racism as used by white supremacists" also follows the cross through Christian history.

"The cross does not, by any means, symbolize a 'history of religious intolerance, forced conversions, inquisitions or racism,'" Schwartz responded tersely. "That is an outrageously bigoted statement."

Rev. Phillip Schanker, vice president of the FFWPU, said getting Christian pastors to remove the cross from their churches involves more than just taking down a symbol.

"There are divergent theological understandings centered around the cross," Schanker said. "So, it's not just the symbol we're dealing with."

While Christians may view the cross as the symbol of Christ's sacrificial death to pay for their sins, Schanker agreed with Stallings that Jews and Muslims have different perceptions. Jewish tradition does not recognize Christ as the savior, and Islamic teachings deny that it was Jesus who was crucified.

Christians, Schanker said, need to consider those disparate beliefs and ask themselves if the symbolism of the cross is worth maintaining the divisions it allegedly creates.

"It's a matter of overcoming the religious arrogance, the religious chauvinism, the narrow-mindedness, the judgmentalism that often comes from insecurity," Schanker said.

Schwartz agreed that a judgmental attitude is a problem, but he said it appears those opposed to the display of the cross are the ones suffering from it.

"To paraphrase the man who died on the cross for our sins and the sins of Mr. Schanker and all those Muslims and Jews," Schwartz said, "they ought to take care of the beam in their own eye before they look at the speck in their brother's eye."

Schanker accused those who disagree with the anti-cross movement of overreacting.

"I'm sure, for some narrow-minded Christians, it seems like we're undermining or denying the very foundations of Christian belief. Not at all; nobody is questioning the salvific role or Jesus' sacrificial position," Schanker said. "But we're recognizing from within New Testament understanding that Jesus transcended the cross. Let's not continue crucifying him. That's not where he is."

Schwartz laughed in response to Schanker's statement.

"Getting these lectures on Christology from somebody who's announced himself as an enemy of the cross is really amusing," Schwartz said, recalling a comment made by a little girl in Alexander Solzhenitsyn's Gulag Archipelago in reference to prayer in Stalin's Soviet Union.

"Everyone is allowed to pray, as long as no one hears but God," Schwartz quoted. "This is the degree of religious liberty that Mr. Schanker will allow to the one religion that he apparently thinks ought never to speak its name or show its face."

Schwartz found it telling that a group founded by the leader of the "Moonies" would call together Muslims and Jews to renounce "the universal symbol of Christianity as something hateful.

"In the interest of peace, the three who believe that Jesus Christ was not God want to stifle the one who believes that Jesus Christ was God," Schwartz observed. "Is that peace through conquest, peace through surrender, peace through requiring that Christians cease proclaiming their Christianity? That is not an offer of peace."

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To: freedomcrusader
Since Mohammed founded Islam precisely to be opposed to what Judaism and especially Christianity teach, why in the world should we WANT to be "reconciled" to the Muslims? Why should Truth be "reconciled" to falsehood? As an example, should the millions of Christians massacred by the Muslims (e.g. 1915-1923 in Turkey, 632+ AD in north Africa and the Middle East) be regarded now as just an obstacle to some sort of unity?
21 posted on 08/22/2003 4:24:42 AM PDT by wildandcrazyrussian
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To: kattracks
Its only a symposium, which usually include academics full of themselves telling others what they need to change.
22 posted on 08/22/2003 4:25:39 AM PDT by bethelgrad (for God, country, and the Corps OOH RAH!)
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To: Young Rhino
"a symbol of forced conversions." Apparently, not enough.
23 posted on 08/22/2003 4:31:18 AM PDT by LS
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To: kattracks
The nut case - Sun Myung Moon - is still alive?
I guess he needs some publicity, his recruitment (and bank account) must be slipping.
24 posted on 08/22/2003 4:34:34 AM PDT by R. Scott
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To: kattracks
Cross is symbol of 'religious intolerance, forced conversions...racism'

Allow me to correct that

Crescent Moon is symbol of 'religious intolerance, forced conversions...racism'

25 posted on 08/22/2003 4:38:00 AM PDT by Centurion2000 (We are crushing our enemies, seeing him driven before us and hearing the lamentations of the liberal)
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To: kattracks
The cross is a reminder of the ultimate sacrifice Jesus ordealed for our sins. It is a symbol of love and forgiveness.

This guy is a nutcase with a fetish for controversy.
26 posted on 08/22/2003 4:40:22 AM PDT by smith288 ('This time I think the Americans are serious. Bush is not like Clinton.' - Uday Hussein)
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To: kattracks; searchandrecovery
There are no words to describe the depth of this depravity; I agree that this is hate speech in its most virulent form. The Cross is THE symbol of Christian faith, that we are saved, not by our actions, but by the gift of grace from Christ's sacrifice for us. This effort and stance to remove the Cross as a visible means of reminding us of Christ's triumph on our behalf from the humility of the Cross is quite simply appalling.
27 posted on 08/22/2003 4:47:32 AM PDT by alwaysconservative (I stand beneath the Cross)
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To: kanzas
The Cross is not a barrier, Its a door to salvation and many just dont open it when they hear the knock.
28 posted on 08/22/2003 4:48:16 AM PDT by smith288 ('This time I think the Americans are serious. Bush is not like Clinton.' - Uday Hussein)
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To: wildandcrazyrussian
Why should Truth be "reconciled" to falsehood?

You and I may feel this way, but we may have to show our allegiance to truth at the point of a sword before all this is over.

All of a sudden, I feel like I have woken up in an alternative world. How could we be hearing this kind of insinuation in the land of the free and the home of the brave?

29 posted on 08/22/2003 4:50:53 AM PDT by happygrl
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To: alwaysconservative
We could remove the cross and then join with other heretical groups like the Mormons and the JWs in repudiating the Savior who died on that cross to purchase His church.
30 posted on 08/22/2003 4:53:01 AM PDT by aardvark1
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To: kattracks
Duh, if Jesus was never crucified, there would be no Christianity! DUH!!

Thank God for Capital Punishment!
31 posted on 08/22/2003 5:36:52 AM PDT by Guillermo (Proud Infidel)
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To: kattracks
boycott Kahr handguns another "Moon" corperation Moons Lurid Lifestyle
32 posted on 08/22/2003 5:43:37 AM PDT by joesnuffy (Moderate Islam Is For Dilettantes)
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To: kattracks
Any Christian "church" that would remove the cross where my Lord died for my sins is fallen away from true faith. They are liars that want to deny the sinful nature of all men that nailed Jesus to the cross.

I would flee such a "church" in a heartbeat!

33 posted on 08/22/2003 5:47:32 AM PDT by Walkin Man
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To: kattracks
Anti-Christ religon...all inclusive...throw in Buddah, Mohammed, Gaia,Krull, Pele,all of em...
one big stew pot of deities...
The pagans love it...(it denies God the father God the son and God the Holy Spirit) and affirms all the demon gods they revere
The atheists love it because since to them there is no God...all deities are irrelevant..(they also hate the Christian idea of God the Father God the Son God the Holy Spirit)
The new world order loves it..the UN globalists (it denies the deity of Jesus Christ)
Moon is right there with em...

34 posted on 08/22/2003 5:49:21 AM PDT by joesnuffy (Moderate Islam Is For Dilettantes)
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To: kattracks
Well, I guess the demonetization of Christians is complete. No more speaking of anything in government and now we are to remove symbols from public view. Soon, teaching anything of a religious nature to your children will be considered child abuse.

The Soviet Union did the same thing.
35 posted on 08/22/2003 5:56:20 AM PDT by PatrioticAmerican (Helping Mexicans invade America is TREASON!)
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To: happygrl
When it became the land of the fee and the home of the knave...
36 posted on 08/22/2003 6:24:59 AM PDT by American in Israel (Dont you hate it when you forget to change your tag line?!)
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To: kattracks
Here is part of a teaching by this nutcase, showing his "tolerance, and love for others (Americans)".



"In order to have a relationship with your husband you have to be married. Women who refuse to marry will be condemned to death. If you were to survive, the universe would eliminate you. This is the truth. In that sense, following Father's teaching this morning, can we find a true original woman in the American secular world? (No.) Is there even one single woman who qualifies to meet Father's criteria?
--Sun Young Moon


Just why does anyone listen to him?
37 posted on 08/22/2003 6:33:50 AM PDT by American in Israel (Dont you hate it when you forget to change your tag line?!)
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To: American in Israel
Liberals are willing to quote anyone or anything to get their way. Liars are willing to lie to smear the truth.
38 posted on 08/22/2003 6:34:48 AM PDT by American in Israel (Dont you hate it when you forget to change your tag line?!)
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To: kattracks; scripter; GrandMoM
Bump & Ping
39 posted on 08/22/2003 8:24:26 AM PDT by EdReform (Support Free Republic - Become a Monthly Donor)
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To: kattracks
For the message of the cross is foolishness to those who are perishing, but to us who are being saved it is the power of God. (1 Cor 1:18 NIV)

For, as I have often told you before and now say again even with tears, many live as enemies of the cross of Christ. (Phil 3:18 NIV)

40 posted on 08/22/2003 10:00:11 AM PDT by Constitutionalist Conservative (http://c-pol.com)
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