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To: MarthaNOStewart
I never claimed you could be educated by me or anyone else, I feel you have an unteachable spirit.

"I feel"? That is the kind of statement a left-wing liberal would make. I am eminently teachable, but you haven't even tried to support your case.

As for Common Law, it is based on Ten Commandments, and you obviously have no idea where they came from....

Then explain this one thing for me: Why does every source on the origins of Common Law in the British Isles have it predating the arrival of Christianity by hundreds or thousands of years? When the first real Christian missionaries first came to the British isles only hundreds of years after the death of Christ, they not only documented that the Common Law system of that land was ancient, but that there was nothing resembling a Judeo-Christian belief system there, only various odd pagan religions indigenous to that region.

If I'm going to believe your claim, you need to explain why every record, both from Christian and non-Christian sources, state that the Common Law predates the Judeo-Christian religion as we know it. How do you explain away the Common Law predating the birth of Christ? Granted the Ten Commandments predate Christ, but there was no evidence that the people of the isles had ever heard of such a thing according to the Christians that first went there. And indeed, the earliest sets of laws of that region that we have record of do not look like they were influenced by the Ten Commandments.

79 posted on 08/23/2003 1:30:20 PM PDT by tortoise (All these moments lost in time, like tears in the rain.)
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To: tortoise
Common Laws of England were accumulated over many centuries. In England during 15th century(1600's), justices were using the Ten Commandments as a basis for their judgements, and Biblical Scripture was being quoted in their decisions. In mid 1600's the colonies were being established, and using the Common Law of England as their guide to establishing law. I gave the website of Yale Law School (Avalon Project) because it is most extensive collection of original documents I have seen online. At the end of "Charter for the Province of Pennsylvania-1681" there is documentation of where the originals are to be found. They tell you how to find the original documents they have used, and how they transpired in the formation of America.
I will add another reply due to lack of space to address the christian question.
80 posted on 08/23/2003 4:28:11 PM PDT by MarthaNOStewart
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To: tortoise
Common Law was NOT legislated, it is an accumulation of decisions made and accepted over time as the law, and Common Law changed over time. The first laws are the Laws of Hammurabi, 6000 BC, known as the eye-for-an-eye, survival of the fittest and quite barbaric, however accepted in its time. America's development took place after the Ten Commandments had become the source of Common Law decisions, and therefore easily befitting the Puritans, who were christians. Although the Ten Commandments are Old Testament, and were given to Moses on the Mount after Israelites exit from Egypt and before Christ was born, they are part of Bible. There was no written "Bible", as we know it now, but at time Ten Commandments were given, those tablets of stone were the first written laws given to Israel. AS Gentiles were evangelized per Jesus instruction they took a backseat to his two new commandments "Love God with all you heart, all your mind and all your soul." and the second one "Love your neighbor as yourself".
England was part of the Roman Empire at one time, and as the Empire fell and territory was lost, it came down to Constantine (who many claim was christian convert, I do not know), but in the end he divided the Roman Empire to Four Leaders. England lost the Romaninfluence and their laws were then influenced by protestant missionaries who came and evangelized the area. St. Patrick was Catholic missionary and his influence was felt strongest in Ireland. The two opposing religious influences are still being felt today, as we know by warring of catholics and protestants.
I don't know if I have answered your questions, and I am sure there is a typo or grammar mistake, so take your best shot! I am a christian, but that is not my reason for wanting the Ten Commandments left where they are. I want history to remain true, and if we allow them to be removed...then the "right to free speech" is over. Textbooks would have to become politically correct and any reference to Ten Commandments would be removed, and when truth is removed it is replaced with a lie. Is that what you want?

81 posted on 08/23/2003 4:53:59 PM PDT by MarthaNOStewart
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