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The TEN COMMANDMENTS - Who Wants Them Gone The Most (And Why)

Posted on 08/21/2003 12:27:25 PM PDT by Happy2BMe

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To: Protagoras
Looks like that won't be necessary. You don't appear prepared to debate what I wrote in my original post on this thread.

Seems you just want to change the subject. So, buh bye.

181 posted on 08/24/2003 9:07:01 PM PDT by savedbygrace
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To: savedbygrace
I didn't read your original post which is why I didn't comment on IT. I commented on the first one I saw and there was nothing off base in my comment about IT.

buh bye

You have been watching too much Mc Goofy group.

And it's hard to debate with someone who calls you stupid on the first exchange.

182 posted on 08/24/2003 9:10:50 PM PDT by Protagoras (Putting government in charge of morality is like putting pedophiles in charge of children.)
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To: traditional1
"Wrong! The monument is NOT on public property to "promote" religion"

You should really get ALL your facts straight before setting out on such an emotional defense, here's what Roy Moore said at the innauguration of his rock.

"The monument serves to remind the appellate courts and judges of the circuit and district courts of this state and members of the bar who appear before them as well as the people of Alabama who visit the Alabama Judicial Building of the truth stated in the preamble of the Alabama Constitution that in order to establish justice we must invoke 'the favor and guidance of Almighty God,' "

184 posted on 08/24/2003 9:24:51 PM PDT by Luis Gonzalez (There's no such thing as a stupid question, there are however, many inquisitive morons out there...)
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To: tru
Excellent, TRU!

[Excerpt]

Socialism is Legal Plunder

Mr. de Montalembert has been accused of desiring to fight socialism by the use of brute force. He ought to be exonerated from the accusation, for he has plainly said: "The war that we must fight againt socialism must be in harmony with law, honor, and justice."
But why doen not Mr. de Montalembert see that he has placed himself in a vicious circle? You would use the law to oppose socialism? But it is upon the law that socialism itself relies. Socialism desires to practice legal plunder, not illegal plunder. Socialists, like all other monopolies, desire to make the law their own weapon. And when once the law is on the side of socialism, how can it be used against socialism? For when plunder is abetted by the law, it does not fear your courts, your gendarmes, and your prisons. Rather, it may call upon them for help.
To prevent this, you would exclude socialism from entering into the making of laws? You would prevent socialists from entering the Legislative Palace? You shall not succeed, I predict, so long as legal plunder continues to be the main business of the legislature. It is illogical-in fact, absurd-to assume otherwise.

[End of Excerpt]

Socialism is the bedpartner of communism (the religion of atheism).

We see it once again streaming forth from our legislators, judges, and elected polititians in high office.

It has never worked in history, it will not work now.


185 posted on 08/25/2003 5:37:26 AM PDT by Happy2BMe (LIBERTY has arrived in Iraq - Now we can concentrate on HOLLYWEED!)
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To: Luis Gonzalez
"You should really get ALL your facts straight before setting out on such an emotional defense, here's what Roy Moore said at the innauguration of his rock."

   

CONSTITUTION OF 1861

PREAMBLE


Revised by order of the Convention of the People, assembled at Montgomery on the Seventh Day of January, A. D., 1861.

We the People of the State of Alabama, having separated ourselves from the Government known as the United States of America, and being now by our representatives in Convention assembled, and acting in our sovereign and independent character; in order to establish justice, insure domestic tranquillity, and secure the blessings of liberty to ourselves and our posterity - invoking the favor and guidance of Almighty God - do ordain and establish the following Constitution and form of Government for the State of Alabama: And the boundaries of this State are established to be: Beginning where the thirty-first degree of North latitude crosses the Perdido river; thence East, to the boundary line of the State of Georgia; thence along said line to the Southern boundary of the State of Tennessee; thence West, along the Southern boundary line of the State of Tennessee, crossing the Tennessee river, and on to the intersection of said river by said line; thence up said river to the mouth of Big Bear creek; thence by a direct line to the North-west corner of Washington county in this State, as originally formed; thence Southerly along the line of Mississippi to the Gulf of Mexico; thence Eastwardly, including all Islands within six leagues of the shore, to the Perdido river; and thence up the same to the beginning.

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Hey Louie! - It's not HIS ROCK!

186 posted on 08/25/2003 5:41:57 AM PDT by Happy2BMe (LIBERTY has arrived in Iraq - Now we can concentrate on HOLLYWEED!)
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To: freeeee
Sad but true. I take getting kicked off a jury pool as a high complement

If you want justice, then you should want on the jury. Act as dumb as a bag of hammers and then when comes the time they may choose you, thinking youre a liberal, CCCP flag waving leftist who might let some rapist go on some technicality...but instead a person of God who seeks justice for those who perform evil.

187 posted on 08/25/2003 5:45:47 AM PDT by smith288 ('This time I think the Americans are serious. Bush is not like Clinton.' - Uday Hussein)
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To: Protagoras; savedbygrace; tru; freee; Trajan88; concisetraveler; ATOMIC_PUNK
Prota's TAG LINE READS: > > > "(Putting government in charge of morality is like putting pedophiles in charge of children.)"

OK, Prota - time to fess up!

WHO or WHAT is the SOURCE OF MORALITY?

188 posted on 08/25/2003 5:47:23 AM PDT by Happy2BMe (LIBERTY has arrived in Iraq - Now we can concentrate on HOLLYWEED!)
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To: Happy2BMe
This is in the form of a "conscience" and as such it goes against even a man's nature to lie, steal, kill, and covet.

I disagree... A mans natural instinct is to sin. Without guidance of God, killing would be considered at worst, assault, at best "justice". Gods commandments are a list of rules to touch a mans heart that otherwise would be filled with barbaric attitudes without knowledge of wrongdoing.

189 posted on 08/25/2003 6:03:19 AM PDT by smith288 ('This time I think the Americans are serious. Bush is not like Clinton.' - Uday Hussein)
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To: freeeee
The weak atheist lacks belief in God(s). That is what I consider myself.

So you know there is a God, you just purposely dont believe IN his words?

190 posted on 08/25/2003 6:07:53 AM PDT by smith288 ('This time I think the Americans are serious. Bush is not like Clinton.' - Uday Hussein)
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To: smith288
We are speaking of the "law - Ten Commandments" being written into the "natural law" of nature:

Romans 2:12~16

12All who sin apart from the law will also perish apart from the law, and all who sin under the law will be judged by the law. 13For it is not those who hear the law who are righteous in God's sight, but it is those who obey the law who will be declared righteous. 14(Indeed, when Gentiles, who do not have the law, do by nature things required by the law, they are a law for themselves, even though they do not have the law, 15since they show that the requirements of the law are written on their hearts, their consciences also bearing witness, and their thoughts now accusing, now even defending them.) 16This will take place on the day when God will judge men's secrets through Jesus Christ, as my gospel declares.

191 posted on 08/25/2003 6:13:32 AM PDT by Happy2BMe (LIBERTY has arrived in Iraq - Now we can concentrate on HOLLYWEED!)
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To: Happy2BMe
It's not Louie, and that's not the curtrent Constitution in Alabama.
192 posted on 08/25/2003 6:13:50 AM PDT by Luis Gonzalez (There's no such thing as a stupid question, there are however, many inquisitive morons out there...)
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To: Luis Gonzalez
Louis Gonzales - -

The PREAMBLE to the Alabama Constitution is verbatim to what I posted.

I know you don't like it, but that's just the way it is.

193 posted on 08/25/2003 6:39:50 AM PDT by Happy2BMe (LIBERTY has arrived in Iraq - Now we can concentrate on HOLLYWEED!)
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To: Happy2BMe
God is the source, but I guess it's not surprising that you thought it was some judge instead.

Now it's time for you to fess up. Tell all your buddies that you want the government to use force to enforce the first commandment. Then we can move through the list.

194 posted on 08/25/2003 7:08:45 AM PDT by Protagoras (Putting government in charge of morality is like putting pedophiles in charge of children.)
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To: Protagoras
"Now it's time for you to fess up."

So you may be agnostic, but you do acknowledge the existence of God, then, right?

Are you Libertarian?

195 posted on 08/25/2003 7:21:08 AM PDT by Happy2BMe (LIBERTY has arrived in Iraq - Now we can concentrate on HOLLYWEED!)
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To: Protagoras; savedbygrace; tru; freee; Trajan88; concisetraveler; ATOMIC_PUNK; Huck; petitfour; ...
Funny how socialists have changed our government's position on God and The Ten Commandments over the past twenty years:

Oct. 4th, 1982 - 97th Congress Proclaimed "Year of The Bible" - Twenty Years Later What Has Changed?

196 posted on 08/25/2003 7:37:38 AM PDT by Happy2BMe (LIBERTY has arrived in Iraq - Now we can concentrate on HOLLYWEED!)
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To: Happy2BMe
I'm not an agnostic but you are a moron. I'm a Christain, not that it's any business of yours.

Now that the flame war has started lets use the same tactics.

So you may be a muslim but you still like this nutty judge.

197 posted on 08/25/2003 7:53:16 AM PDT by Protagoras (Putting government in charge of morality is like putting pedophiles in charge of children.)
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To: Happy2BMe
Time to fess up. Tell the people about the enforcement of the first commandment at gunpoint.
198 posted on 08/25/2003 7:54:20 AM PDT by Protagoras (Putting government in charge of morality is like putting pedophiles in charge of children.)
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To: Protagoras
"Tell the people about the enforcement of the first commandment at gunpoint."

You know something the rest of the world doesn't?

Times, dates, names and places.

199 posted on 08/25/2003 8:06:05 AM PDT by Happy2BMe (LIBERTY has arrived in Iraq - Now we can concentrate on HOLLYWEED!)
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To: Protagoras
"I'm a Christain, not that it's any business of yours."

Oh - could have fooled many, many people. Great cover!

200 posted on 08/25/2003 8:07:12 AM PDT by Happy2BMe (LIBERTY has arrived in Iraq - Now we can concentrate on HOLLYWEED!)
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