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Vigilantes plead guilty, released
The Yuma Sun ^ | 21 August, 2003 | LOUIE VILLALOBOS

Posted on 08/21/2003 8:41:47 AM PDT by GoRepGo

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the men were released on special circumstances, but couldn't specify what those circumstances were.

Very interesting.

1 posted on 08/21/2003 8:41:47 AM PDT by GoRepGo
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To: GoRepGo
So making a Citizens Artrest on illegal immigrants is now called Unlawful Imprisonment?
2 posted on 08/21/2003 8:49:51 AM PDT by sgtbono2002
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To: GoRepGo
This is so predictable.

They'll be given 2 years probation, and have to turn in all their firearms. The parole agents will be able to search their homes at will during that time.

3 posted on 08/21/2003 8:51:16 AM PDT by snopercod
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To: sgtbono2002
too bad the illegals were held for unlawful entry.
4 posted on 08/21/2003 9:07:39 AM PDT by Texas_Jarhead
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To: Texas_Jarhead
oops.

too bad the illegals were NOT prosecuted for unlawful entry.
5 posted on 08/21/2003 9:12:46 AM PDT by Texas_Jarhead
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To: Texas_Jarhead
What a travesty of justice. According to an earlier article that was posted on FR, they will be bringing the illegals back to Yuma to testify against Hoffman & Dumas!
6 posted on 08/21/2003 9:15:32 AM PDT by GoRepGo (Tag, your it!)
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To: madfly; HiJinx; Tancredo Fan
ping
7 posted on 08/21/2003 9:22:39 AM PDT by Libertarianize the GOP (Ideas have consequences)
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To: sgtbono2002
So making a Citizens Artrest on illegal immigrants is now called Unlawful Imprisonment?

Unfortunately, in the PC world we live in, yes it is.

9 posted on 08/21/2003 9:28:04 AM PDT by Mark17
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To: GoRepGo
"Other than calling the case "interesting," Orozco said she couldn't comment on it."

With a last name like that, it's not surprising which side she's on.

10 posted on 08/21/2003 9:37:57 AM PDT by nightdriver
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To: sgtbono2002
"So making a Citizens Artrest on illegal immigrants is now called Unlawful Imprisonment?"

Apparently so. Sad, huh?

11 posted on 08/21/2003 9:38:00 AM PDT by MEGoody
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To: KurtChicago
"Have you guys ever heard about Umberto Bossi, the Italian minister? He once advocated using battleships to sink boats transporting illegal inmigrants."

Works for me.
12 posted on 08/21/2003 9:45:41 AM PDT by ought-six
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To: snopercod
They'll be given 2 years probation, and have to turn in all their firearms. The parole agents will be able to search their homes at will during that time.

Get used to it. The marxists and their useful idiots, the soccer moms, want this. They have been very successful at dividing us all up into little groups where when government comes down on one group, the others either don't care because it's not happening to them or outright cheer on the government to rip the target group to shreds. Welcom to 21st century America.

13 posted on 08/21/2003 9:53:41 AM PDT by Orangedog (Soccer-Moms are the biggest threat to your freedoms and the republic !)
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To: Libertarianize the GOP
I wonder if that drooling imbecile Asa Hutchinson will plead guilty for not doing his job? A dead fish rots from the head, of course.... write in Tancredo in 2004.
14 posted on 08/21/2003 10:07:22 AM PDT by Tancredo Fan (Stop the invasion. Put the military on the borders, round up illegals, and tell Fox to shove off.)
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To: Free the USA; Libertarianize the GOP; madfly; Carry_Okie; FITZ; Spiff; Tancredo Fan; ...
Bump-Ping!!!
The Border List TM

15 posted on 08/21/2003 11:00:21 AM PDT by HiJinx (The Right person, in the Right place, at the Right time...to do His work.)
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To: sgtbono2002
So making a Citizens Artrest on illegal immigrants is now called Unlawful Imprisonment?

Under Arizona law, you can only perform a citizens rest in reaction to either a probable felony or misdemeanor riot (which does not apply). The strong majority of illegal immigrants, at the time of their crossing the border, are guilty of a federal administrative offense, not a federal felony, hence being an illegal immigrant without some other kind of offense in progress, such as drug smuggling or breaking into a building, does not rise to the threshhold where citizens arrest is sanctioned by the state of Arizona.

That's why responsible border groups such as American Border Patrol typically will only observe illegals and report them to the authorities instead of trying to apprehend them.

16 posted on 08/21/2003 11:06:44 AM PDT by dirtboy (Arnold's positions are like the alien in Predator - you can't see them but you know they're lethal)
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To: GoRepGo
is conspiracy to commit unlawful imprisonment a felony there?
17 posted on 08/21/2003 11:10:32 AM PDT by glock rocks (I took your advise and shut up... great... now I can't stop typing.)
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To: Orangedog
They'll be given 2 years probation, and have to turn in all their firearms. The parole agents will be able to search their homes at will during that time.

Welcome to Amerika.

18 posted on 08/21/2003 11:14:03 AM PDT by SAMWolf (Money is the root of all evil, and a man needs roots.)
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To: sgtbono2002
This is the type of crud with citizens that gets some goof sniping at the border. The people can take so much.

Why is a criminal illegal alien given almost sainthood with our state?

Won't picking on our citizens cause probable violence as a result?

I can see where if they frustrate land owners like this, eventually they'll probably shoot a bunch of illegals and say they were being attacked by those illegals as to not get jailed like these other two guys?

If the government would do their job there would be no issue here or citizens getting into legal troubles.
19 posted on 08/21/2003 11:22:55 AM PDT by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: KurtChicago
Dumas and Hoffmann are good law-abiding Americans.

No, they are not.

20 posted on 08/21/2003 11:25:53 AM PDT by PRND21
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