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To: inquest
So either the 11th Circuit court is correct in its interpretation, or incorrect. If the latter (and all evidence points in that direction)...

So you assert. But the fact of the matter is that it is the 11'th Circuit who is empowered to determine it, not Roy Moore. In fact, Roy Moore swore an oath to uphold the Constitution, including the authority of the 11'th Circuit - how quickly that is discarded when it proves inconvenient!

Or perhaps not. How much luck do you think I would have in front of Judge Moore with that one?

Irrelevant.

Entirely relevant. Given that we have abandoned the notion of the "divine right of kings" these days, if Roy Moore has the right to choose which court orders he will sanction, then so too must I have that same right, and so must every other citizen. While I admit that this particular conception of "ordered liberty" is chock-full of liberty, it seems a bit light on the "order" part...

1,184 posted on 08/26/2003 12:01:17 PM PDT by general_re (Today is a day for firm decisions! Or is it?)
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To: general_re
But the fact of the matter is that it is the 11'th Circuit who is empowered to determine it, not Roy Moore.

Wrong. The 11th Circuit court is empowered to make rulings based on the actual meaning of the Constitution, not on the basis of anything else. No one is legally obligated to obey an illegal ruling.

In fact, Roy Moore swore an oath to uphold the Constitution, including the authority of the 11'th Circuit

He swore no oath to uphold the authority of any court. You're correct that he swore an oath to uphold the Constitution, and that oath is now in conflict with the ruling that was handed to him.

Given that we have abandoned the notion of the "divine right of kings" these days, if Roy Moore has the right to choose which court orders he will sanction, then so too must I have that same right, and so must every other citizen.

I didn't say that Moore or anyone else has the right to choose what orders he wants to obey. I said that he - and every other citizen - has the right and duty to disobey illegal orders.

1,185 posted on 08/26/2003 12:10:10 PM PDT by inquest (We are NOT the world)
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