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Is Media Ignoring Boy?s Murder Case Because Suspects Are Gay?
ABC News ^ | 4/13/2003 | ABC News Staff

Posted on 08/21/2003 4:47:51 AM PDT by JesseHousman

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To: Taxman
Taxman,you may be correct I guess I was just being PC. I guess some think being nice and passive are one iand the same. It is almost like Americans have become squeamish when addressing those with criminal behavior. We have stood by and allowed any and all type behavior to become socially acceptable.
61 posted on 08/21/2003 12:08:58 PM PDT by gunnedah
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To: gunnedah
Grade school insinuations are so charming. It really reveals your character, or lack thereof. Try again.
62 posted on 08/21/2003 12:14:12 PM PDT by tdadams
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To: tdadams
I was only replying to the sedition and persecution complex. Dont hit me with your purse.
63 posted on 08/21/2003 12:28:40 PM PDT by gunnedah
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To: GSWarrior
That's true that there are many people that are potential killers. However, I believe that based on the preponderance of evidence, that homosexuals have their narcissistic brains primed:

Consider this:

Homosexual Serial Killers Gilles de Rais 300+ 1430s France

Randy Steven Kraft 65 (est.) 1971 to 1983 Oregon, Michigan, etc. "Score Card Killer"

Michael Swango 35 - 60 1983-97 Ohio, Illinois, New York, South Dakota, Virginia "Doctor of Death" -- killed hospital patients

Andrei Chikatilo 52 until 1992 Russia

Fritz Haarmann 40 (est.) until 1924 Germany "Butcher Of Hanover"

John Wayne Gacy 33 until 1978 Chicago

Patrick Wayne Kearney 28+ 1968 to 1977 Redondo Beach, Calif. gay cruising areas of Hollywood; "Trash Bag Killer"

David D. Hill 28? 1968 to 1977 Redondo Beach, Calif. Hollywood

Patrick Kearney's lover; confessed to being co-killer with Kearney, but police weren't sure about the extent of his involvement

Hans Grans 27+ until 1924 Germany accommplice and love of Haarmann, the "Butcher Of Hanover"

Wayne Williams 27 1979-81 Atlanta

Dean Corll 27 1960s to 1973 Ft. Wayne, Indiana; later Houston, TX

Elmer Wayne Henley 27 1960s to 1973 Ft. Wayne, Indiana; later Houston, TX

David Owen Brooks 27 1960s to 1973 Ft. Wayne, Indiana; later Houston, TX

Donald Harvey 25 - 40 (est.) 1970-71 London, Kentucky

Juan Corona 25 1971 From Mexico; moved to Yuba City, CA in 1950s

Norman Afzal Simons 21 (est.) 1986-1994 Capetown, South Africa victims were mixed-race boys; believed to be the "Station Strangler"

Adolfo de Jesus Constanzo 21 (est.) until 1989 Matamoros, Mexico "Matamoros Cult Killer"

Carl Panzram 21 1910-1930 Warren, Minnesota USA, West Africa

Larry Eyler 19 1980s Chicago Illinois and Indiana

Jeffrey Dahmer 17 1978, 1988-91 Milwaukee and Chicago cannibal

Robert Berdella ? until 1988 Kansas City Kansas

Dennis Nilsen 16 1978-83 U.K.

Marcelo Costa de Andrade 14 until 1991 Rio de Janeiro, Brazil

William Bonin 12+ 1979-80 Downey, Orange County, Calif.

Henry Lee Lucas 12+ 1970s and 80s Most in Texas, Southeastern U.S.

Ottis Toole 12+ 1970s and 80s West Coast, Florida, etc. accomplice of Henry Lee Lucas

Bruce Lee 12 1980 England (NOT the famous actor.) Killed victims by arson.

Johannes Mashiane 12 until 1989 South Africa "The Beast of Atteridgeville"

Vaughn Greenwood 11+ 1974-75 Los Angeles

Thomas Quick 10+ Sweden Started killing when he was 14 years old.

Richard Speck 8+ 1966 Chicago married, bisexual

Peter Kurten 8+ 1905-1921 Germany "The Vampire of Dusseldorf"

Alton Coleman 8 1984 Midwestern U.S.

Cayetano Hernandez 8 1963 Yerba Buena, Mexico

Eleazor Solis 8 1963 Monterey, Mexico

David Bullock 6+ 1981-82 New York City NY

Vernon Butts 6+ 1979-80 Calif. Orange County, Calif. accomplice of William Bonin

Paul Bateson 6 ? (est.) 1977-78 New York City NY

Albert Fish ? until 1936 USA child molester and canibal

Michael Terry 6 1980-86 Atlanta Georgia, Ohio, South Carolina

Orville Lynn Majors 6 Indiana Vermillion County Hospital, Indiana

Charles Cohen 5+ Delaware Delaware, San Francisco, New York, Miami, and New Orleans

Andrew Cunanan 5 1997 San Diego, Calif. Minnesota; Chicago, IL; South Beach, FL killed fashion designer Gianni Versace

Michael Lupo 4+ 1986 from Italy London

Peter Moore 4 1995 north Wales

Westley Allan Dodd 3+ Washington, Oregon

David P. Brown (a.k.a. Nathaniel Bar-Jonah) 3+ 2000 Massachusetts Montana victims were young boys

Bruce Davis 2+ 1968-72 Los Angeles Charles Manson accomplice

Serial Killers who were Lesbians

Magdalena Solis 8 1963 Monterey, Mexico

Aileen Wuornos 7+ 1989-90 south of Daytona, Florida Florida killed male "johns"

Tyria Moore 7+ 1989-90 south of Daytona, Florida Florida killed male "johns"

Catherine Wood 6 Grand Rapids, MI Grand Rapids, MI nurse who killed patients

Gwen Graham 6 Grand Rapids, MI Grand Rapids, MI nurse who killed patients

Serial killers are nearly always men (93%). Furthermore, of the relatively few female serial killers, one third of them worked in partnership with males. In the United States, serial killers are predominantly white. This makes sense statistically, because about 80% of the population is white. Whites, however, are over-represented among serial killers. Although blacks are over-represented among the persons convicted of murder in general, they are under-represented among serial killers. Asians are also under-represented; Asian serial-killers are extremely rare in the United States. Some homosexual serial killers were openly gay or lesbian. Some were closeted homosexuals. Many of the most famous gay serial killers (e.g., Jeffrey Dahmer, Andrew Cunanan, John Wayne Gacy, etc.) were homosexuals, but they became widely known due to the nature of their crimes or the identities of their victims, not because they in any way represent serial killers generally. Homosexual serial killers have most frequently chosen young boys or gay men as their victims, although some have victimized females as well. Most of the killers have raped their victims either before or after killing them, although in some cases they have killed after consensual homosexual sex. There have been heterosexual serial killers who have targeted gay victims (e.g., Colin Ireland), but this is very rare. But more importantly, none of the serial killers listed here represent typical homosexuals, who, like the general population, are almost never involved in violent crime. The exact nature of each individual's feelings, attitudes, and behavior with regards to sex is unique, in the general population as well as among serial killers. Legally, all or nearly all of the homosexual serial killers on this list would be considered sexual deviants because of the extreme and violent nature of their acts -- not simply because of their homosexual orientation.

64 posted on 08/21/2003 12:39:54 PM PDT by JesseHousman
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To: tdadams
Grade school insinuations are so charming.

I beleve we've gone beyond the insinuation stage.

Anyone who vehemently defends perverts and their filthy acts that go beyond their bedrooms into the playgrounds, is part and parcel of this most serious problem of the homosexual agenda.

This is an evil perversion that is staining morals, civilized behavior, education and even religion. There is absolutely nothing to commend this abnormal and evil behavior.

Your persistance in defending it is contrary to intelligent discourse.

I can, however, understand someone who is caught up in such a licentious style of living trying to explain their existence to anyone who will listen. I would suggest to that person that they are simply taking a whiz in a hurricane when the audience truly believes in God and His Commandments.

There is a way out of such a perverted existence and I don't mean suicide: once practicing this evil behavior, one can climb out of the sewer and live and enjoy a normal life. It has been proven.

65 posted on 08/21/2003 12:57:02 PM PDT by JesseHousman
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To: tdadams
I don't like it when leftists paint all Christians, or all gun owners, or all conservatives with an unfairly broad brush. So, being philosophically consistent, I object when conservatives use the same broad brush on others.

This is really comparing apples and hand grenades. IOW, your comparison is so much of a stretch that it is ridiculous.

66 posted on 08/21/2003 1:41:29 PM PDT by Eaker (This is OUR country; let's take it back!!!!!)
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To: Eaker
Please explain how you make that assertion, that my comparison is ridiculous or irrelevant, because it seems exactly parallel to me.
67 posted on 08/21/2003 1:52:07 PM PDT by tdadams
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To: gunnedah
Well, one of the objectives of FRee Republic, if I may be so bold as to steal some of JimRobs thunder, is to toss "PC" on the ash heap of history, along with the rest of the LIEberal/Socialist/Marxist agenda!

So, we FReepers ought to resist PC with every fiber of our being.
68 posted on 08/21/2003 1:53:00 PM PDT by Taxman
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To: JesseHousman
What a smug piece of pretentious busybody drivel! Blah, blah, blah.

People who are so disturbingly obsessed with other people's sex lives are the ones who have a mental illness in my opinion.

Instead of being a morals fascist, won't you try minding your own business and affording free Americans a modicum of individual liberty to live the life they choose and either enjoy the blessings or suffer the consequences free from your unnecessary intervention.

69 posted on 08/21/2003 1:57:37 PM PDT by tdadams
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To: tdadams
To compare a group espousing the right to keep and bear arms, a God given right to a group espousing pedophilia, which is abhorrent in the eyes of God is ridiculous.
70 posted on 08/21/2003 2:21:20 PM PDT by Eaker (This is OUR country; let's take it back!!!!!)
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To: JesseHousman
I posted a similar story here a couple of years ago. The crime occured in Bakersfield, California. A teenage boy was anally raped and tourtured before he was murdered. A horrific crime which recieved little press attention, even from the local paper The Bakersfield Californian.
71 posted on 08/21/2003 2:24:30 PM PDT by Zevonismymuse
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To: JesseHousman
You've certainly done your research!
72 posted on 08/21/2003 2:40:27 PM PDT by GSWarrior
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To: autoresponder; JesseHousman
Wow. Thanks for the ping and the post. Good article ...

Amazing since it came from the lamestream media too !


73 posted on 08/21/2003 2:52:48 PM PDT by MeekOneGOP (Check out the Texas Chicken D 'RATS!: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/keyword/Redistricting)
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To: tdadams
...either enjoy the blessings or suffer the consequences...Enjoy to your heart's content.
74 posted on 08/21/2003 2:54:06 PM PDT by JesseHousman
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To: tdadams
I'm also more than weary with the anti-gay zealots
here who want to post every story like this ad infinitum
 just to smear gay people as murderous child molesters.


It reminds me of the Wichita murders.  The crimes were severely underreported in the media due to the race of the perpetrators.  To think underreporting is part of some gay agenda is to ignore the larger picture.
75 posted on 08/21/2003 3:26:05 PM PDT by gcruse (http://gcruse.typepad.com/)
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To: JesseHousman
Anyone who commits this horrible crime, hetro or homosexual, should receive the death penalty. The Carr brothers also received relatively little attention considering how horrific their crimes -- in that case it was bisexual.
76 posted on 08/21/2003 3:44:34 PM PDT by Dante3
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To: JesseHousman
was not the DC sniper also a homosexual? This is also ignored by the media.
77 posted on 08/21/2003 4:38:46 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (Vote!)
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To: Eaker
To compare a group espousing the right to keep and bear arms, a God given right to a group espousing pedophilia, which is abhorrent in the eyes of God is ridiculous.

You apparently reacted before actually reading what I wrote. Go back and try again.

78 posted on 08/21/2003 4:44:07 PM PDT by tdadams
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To: JesseHousman
Your inclusion of Alton Coleman on this list makes me a little suspicious that it's a little padded - stretching the truth a little bit. I'm personally familiar with the Alton Coleman case and I can't say I can recall any element of homosexuality in his killing spree.

I suppose he's included because two of his victims were an elderly couple with the last name of "Gay"!

That seems to be one hell of a misrepresentaion. It certainly throws into question the rest of this list. Not that it's relevant anyway. How many serial killers in history have been heterosexual? Is there any correlation or relevance. No, none whatsoever.

79 posted on 08/21/2003 4:51:54 PM PDT by tdadams
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To: JesseHousman
Try to move beyond a grade school mentality, please.
80 posted on 08/21/2003 4:53:02 PM PDT by tdadams
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