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To: general_re
"this is why there is the second half of that standard, evaluating whether the practical effect is one of promoting [an establishment of] religion or not. "

Look how close we all are to agreement LOL!

Oh well, I expect the Supreme Court to come up with a defensible First Amendment doctrine next session- though I probably won't approve of anything this bunch would concoct.

173 posted on 08/21/2003 6:04:05 PM PDT by mrsmith
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To: mrsmith
Oh well, I expect the Supreme Court to come up with a defensible First Amendment doctrine next session- though I probably won't approve of anything this bunch would concoct.

The only standard I can think of that is fair to all parties involved is the standard of "let 'em all in, or keep 'em all out". The ACLU and PFAW and assorted other fools would probably prefer the second part, but I personally would prefer the first alternative. It keeps the government neutral on the subject of faith and creed, while not pretending that there's no such thing as religion in the world. The government is built the way it is for a reason, and tinkering with it by pretending that the establishment clause doesn't really apply to Christians is starting down a very dangerous road, IMO.

179 posted on 08/21/2003 8:50:27 PM PDT by general_re (A clear conscience is usually the sign of a bad memory.)
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To: mrsmith
Oh well, I expect the Supreme Court to come up with a defensible First Amendment doctrine next session- though I probably won't approve of anything this bunch would concoct.

The only standard I can think of that is fair to all parties involved is the standard of "let 'em all in, or keep 'em all out". The ACLU and PFAW and assorted other fools would probably prefer the second part, but I personally would prefer the first alternative. It keeps the government neutral on the subject of faith and creed, while not pretending that there's no such thing as religion in the world. The government is built the way it is for a reason, and tinkering with it by pretending that the establishment clause doesn't really apply to Christians is starting down a very dangerous road, IMO.

180 posted on 08/21/2003 8:55:11 PM PDT by general_re (A clear conscience is usually the sign of a bad memory.)
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