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To: BlackElk
Gets extra credit for refusing to employ paleos. -Black Elk
Uhhh, Black Elk, didn't President Maximus employ one Patrick Paleo-J Buchanan as his speechwriter? Casey, Watt and Meese at worst would be 'tweeners.
158 posted on 08/23/2003 4:57:38 PM PDT by sittnick (There's no salvation in politics.)
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To: sittnick; ninenot
Ahhhh, but Buchanan did not discover and embrace the heresies of Raimondo on foreign non-policy and military non-war until much later on. I have never heard of Meese or Watt embracing either ever nor William Casey, whatever Woodward may have claimed. In fact, the bishop of Rockville Centre insulted the widow Casey at the funeral for the fact that the ultra-Catholic Bill Casey was not an admirer of the Sandanistas and, worse (lions and tigers and bears, oh my!), DID something about it.

I am pinging ninenot, a semi-close neighbor of good sense standing a bit between me and thee on the paleo matter and very much an admirer of PJB.

As David Frum's article pointed out so well, the origin of the paleos is in the disgruntled realization of the socially eccentric and politically unsophisticated romantic blood and soil types that Reagan really was not going to hire and credential them. In 1986 at a Philadephia Society or Mont Pelerin Society meeting they announced their discovery that they, and not the consevative movement or Reagan admnistration were the REAL conservatives, that Israel had hijacked conservatism along with about eight elderly New York refugees from McGovern's takeover of the DemoParty and that henceforth they would deal with the phonies who elected Reagan by hiding their heads in the sand and denying our (movement conservatives') existence.

More recently, one local example known well to me and thee in teaching a course entitled Real American History (which in its post-1900 portion is real American fantasy) refused to even cover the Reagan Administration (the pain, the horror!) doing literature such as the Legend of Sleepy Hollow instead. These folks are trying to redefine Reagan who can no longer defend himself as a "paleo whatever". When John Flynn, Charles Lindbergh (as a politico) and Garrett Garrett drank at the primeval wading pools of old, Reagan was an avid and active supporter of FDR and no more an ancestral Republican green-eyeshaded bean counter than me or at least half of thee. He was no isolationist either at any stage of ideology or career.

As conservatives go, Ronaldus Maximus was the master. He was the gold standard (so to speak). He was unbeatable. He was a social normalist. He was not a crank like that "history" teacher and neither Serbia nor Montenegro counted in his foreign policy considerations as did Nicaragua or scrapping arms control proposals or being aggressive towards the soviets or keeping chicoms from thinking bad thoughts. One flaw was free trade but no one is perfect any more.

All that having been said, you do, of course, merit, for lifetime achievement in spite of our few differences, a tip of the antlers which is hereby respectfully tendered since you can be distinguished in many ways from our acquaintances at the institute.

159 posted on 08/24/2003 8:32:37 AM PDT by BlackElk ( We're off to hunt the RINOs, the RINOs who want to rule Oz! Becuz, becuz, becuz.....)
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