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To: Dog Gone
You're hoping for the latter, and the ramifications would be far broader and more detrimental than you're willing to admit.

Nope, pal, I'm a born and bread law and order type. I just happen to believe that conforming to an unconstitutional ruling does damage to the constitution. I don't believe in standing by silent till they shred the document. The idea is to rise up and do something before we reach that point. Go back and read the Declaration and what the forefathers knew about the lonsuffering nature of people and their willingness to tolerate so much, then no more. At some point you stand up and fight or you surrender your freedoms. In my book if you don't vote you've no right to complain about who's in office. If you don't defend the constitution, you've no right to run off at the mouth about what end it meets. If you want to elevate process above rights, you've surrendered already. This is an attack on the Constitution. Tell me, if your right to vote is contested, do you stay home and not vote if you do have the right to vote, or do you sit on your hands and let the right be stolen from you through intimidation and process? How much abuse is enough and how much is acceptable? Do tell. The abusers want to know.

528 posted on 08/20/2003 5:34:45 PM PDT by Havoc (If you can't be frank all the time are you lying the rest of the time?)
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To: Havoc
You don't defy the courts. Not if you expect and want them to be there someday to respect and enforce your rights.

Instead, you lick your wounds and work like hell to get judges like Owen and Estrada into a position to do so.

If you defy the courts and get away with it, our whole constitutional system breaks down.

537 posted on 08/20/2003 5:46:12 PM PDT by Dog Gone
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