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To: Beelzebubba
The Judge put the Ten Commandments there in the middle of the night. He knew it was the wrong thing to do or he wouldn't have had to sneak in the dark.

Take the monument away and put it on private property.

11 posted on 08/20/2003 1:15:48 PM PDT by OldFriend ((Dems inhabit a parallel universe))
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To: OldFriend
It wasn't the middle of the night. It started at 6 PM after work hours because it was a 5.5 ton piece of rock being moved by a crane.

They did it that way for safety because the public is all over the rotunda.

Any safety conscious person would have done it the same way.
22 posted on 08/20/2003 1:18:14 PM PDT by xzins (In the Beginning was the Word)
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To: OldFriend
The Judge put the Ten Commandments there in the middle of the night. He knew it was the wrong thing to do or he wouldn't have had to sneak in the dark.

That's not true and I bet you know it's a lie. The people were scheduled to come in the afternoon but were late in delivering it.

Libelous attacks on a conservative judge. Not too good . . .

23 posted on 08/20/2003 1:18:22 PM PDT by JohnnyZ (I don't know but I been told - Eskimo ***** is mighty cold - Tastes good - Mm good)
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To: OldFriend
>>Take the monument away and put it on private property.

Leave the monument there and sell the property to a private foundation.
25 posted on 08/20/2003 1:18:51 PM PDT by VxH
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To: OldFriend
It's Keyes' message that's the issue. It is the same message as Judge Moore's. And it is a clear view of those same words that the liberals use to confuse the 1st amendment.

It is forbidden for Congress to touch this question! It is forbidden for Congress to address it! It is forbidden for Congress to deal with it! [cheering, applause]."

It’s a sound argument, but what follows is what’s vitally important:

"If Congress is forbidden to make a law, how can this judge be enforcing a law they cannot make?.. There is, I believe, going on right now a violation of the Constitution. There is, I believe, a lawless act against which we must stand. But it is the lawless act of the federal judges who seek now to wrest from us that liberty which is ours--not by right of the Constitution, but by grant and right of the Creator, God. "

Awesome reading. And it fits the text.

Congress shall make no law RESPECTING an ESTABLISHMENT OF RELIGION.

If the topic were gun sales, a parallel wording would be: "Congress shall make NO law IN REGARDS TO a GUN SALES ESTABLISHMENT."

If the topic were liquor sales, a parallel wording: "Congress shall make no law REGARDING an establishment that sells liquor."

If the topic were religious denominations, a parallel wording would be: "Congress shall make no law IN REGARDS TO/RESPECTING/REGARDING any ESTABLISHMENT that deals with Relgion."

1. Need to determine if "establishment" is used that way elsewhere in that era.

2. Need to determine if "respecting" is used that way elsewhere in that era.

28 posted on 08/20/2003 1:19:56 PM PDT by xzins (In the Beginning was the Word)
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To: OldFriend
Take the monument away and put it on private property.

I agree. It's over, and Justice Moore lost. As a Chief Justice of a state supreme court, he should re-affirm the rule of law by complying with the order, even if he disagrees with it.

33 posted on 08/20/2003 1:20:39 PM PDT by kesg
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To: OldFriend
I read some information to the effect that wasn't really correct.
I am trying to find the article.

Something to the effect that the workmen were supposed to put it in after the court session was over. (That would place it in the evening).

That said, I can see why the supreme court doesn't want to take it. The whole argument is illogical. After awhile, when your arguments are faulty, it gets awful hard to have your judgements make sense.
41 posted on 08/20/2003 1:23:11 PM PDT by I still care
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To: OldFriend
Yes, by all means, move it to a God friendly country.
98 posted on 08/20/2003 1:42:35 PM PDT by F.J. Mitchell (Our enemies within are very slick, but slime is always treacherously slick, isn't it?)
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To: OldFriend
It's Art!
119 posted on 08/20/2003 1:51:00 PM PDT by onedoug
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To: OldFriend
The Judge put the Ten Commandments there in the middle of the night. He knew it was the wrong thing to do or he wouldn't have had to sneak in the dark.

Moore put this fallacy to rest on Hannity and Colmes a couple of days ago. He said the installation was scheduled to take place at 5:00 pm, after the normal workday for safety purposes. On the day it was to be installed, the company that was installing had a delay of some sort, and was unable to show up to install it until about 9 pm. So, it wasn't like they snuck it in under the cover of darkness, with no one knowing that it was going to happen.

137 posted on 08/20/2003 1:58:13 PM PDT by BreitbartSentMe (Now EX-democrat!!)
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To: OldFriend
"The Judge put the Ten Commandments there in the middle of the night."

The things weighs quite a bit. He didn't do it by himself. And putting in something that big in the middle of the night wouldn't be at all unusual - no disruption to the flow of 'people traffic' that way.

164 posted on 08/20/2003 2:08:39 PM PDT by MEGoody
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To: OldFriend
He did not put them in in the middle of the night. It was scheduled for after work hours because of the use of cranes and the potential danger to employees. The equipment did not arrive as scheduled but came about 9:00 pm. Not the fault of the judge.

Why do these complainers feel so threatened by the monument to the Ten Commandments? Are they not confident enough in their own beliefs that they fear a monument? Do they feel their actions might make others feel uncomfortable? Why is the comfort of the complainers and protesters the only ones to be considered? What about the comfort of the ones who believe in God and believe that we have the right to put God in any place in this country as this country was created in a search for freedom of religion and with the help of that very same God?
354 posted on 08/20/2003 3:14:02 PM PDT by ClancyJ (It's just not safe to vote Democratic.)
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To: OldFriend
You idiot.

He put it there overnight because the monument was late in arriving. It was not planned to put it there overnight.

Stop spreading lies.
409 posted on 08/20/2003 3:49:21 PM PDT by rwfromkansas (http://www.collegemedianews.com *some interesting radio news reports here; check it out*)
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To: OldFriend
The very large monument was ready to go in at 5 o'clock in the afternoon. You want it erected in the middle of the day when people are using the building?
662 posted on 08/20/2003 7:38:58 PM PDT by RobbyS
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