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To: George W. Bush
my point is the commandment about theft.

I guess real carpenters will feel compelled to build. That doesn't mean an employer should cheat them out of their fees.
59 posted on 08/20/2003 2:17:41 PM PDT by xzins (In the Beginning was the Word)
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To: xzins
my point is the commandment about theft.

But you're hanging out at FR.

No one is paying the writers of all these articles for their writings. Doesn't this break the theft commandment?

How often have you photocopied copyrighted materials? Handouts, music sheets, that just-one-more-copy-so-everyone-has-one? And I mean any copyrighted material whether you own it or not.

How just is it to charge everyone for a copying tax on every VCR tape or audio CD-R when a great many of them are used for data storage or backup (CD-R's) or for duplicating home movies or taping non-copyright programs (video tapes)? Hasn't the recording industry then stolen from us with their lobbyists when we are using those media for non-copyrighted material?

So, is FR going to force the children of news writers and opinion writers to go hungry? Will the writing industry disappear entirely because of FR? And I'll point out that many people who download games/music/video from online sources use it to try out the product and then go buy it if they like it.

At FR, I've never heard even one person claim they went and bought a newspaper or magazine just to get a real copy of an original article once they'd read it first here at FR.

Never.

So who are the bigger thieves? Us at FR or the Kazaa people?
69 posted on 08/20/2003 2:30:38 PM PDT by George W. Bush
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To: xzins
my point is the commandment about theft.

That's where I think a lot of the confusion on both sides of the issue come from. Generally theft is understood to be taking something not belonging to you, thereby depriving the rightful owner of it. But in the age of "intellectual property" that's been expanded, and not always in very sensible ways. With the recordings in question, the "theft" is actually the creation of a duplicate copy. The thing being allegedly "stolen" is the potential customer, or more precisely, the money he might have spent purchasing the song through some legal medium. That's a lot more difficult to popularize as theft, and it's one of the reasons moral outrage against thievery isn't making a dent in song sharing.

The urge to protect intellectual property is understandable - it encourages the producers by providing opportunities for profit. But there are powerful free-market reasons to discourage intellectual property also - after all, where would American industry be if Henry Ford was the only one allowed to use an assembly line?

Obviously, our current laws haven't attempted to drive home some sort of pure philisophical point on the issue. They have attempted to establish a reasonable and enforcable balance. But that sort of balancing act has to adapt to fit the situation.

With the current situation of the recording industry, it is simply no longer reasonable to try to prevent song sharing. The technology to record and distribute, once expensive and specialized, has become extremely cheap and nearly universal. Just as it would be ridiculous to prevent someone from hearing a tune and singing it later in the shower, it's growing ridiculous to try to stop someone who has a digital copy from making another and sharing it. While the RIAA might benefit from an intense and expensive governmental enforcement initiative, society overall would be more hurt than helped. It's time to redraw the line in a more reasonable manner.

82 posted on 08/20/2003 2:40:15 PM PDT by Snuffington
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