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It amazes me how all the defenders of a weak worship service and rock music in the church twist the words I speak.

I said no such thing as you accused me of.

What I was saying is that people who claim to be saved should look the part, act the part, and believe the part for the sake of their own witness before men and angels.

But all you can do is take the idea of looking decent in church, take the idea of listening to Godly music instead of worldly music and make it into something I never suggested: Some form of outward judging. What I have constantly saying is: If a person is truly changed, there should be some evidences of it.

Wow, you guys are so marching in lock step on this, it just proves another point; that most of the church does not even know what it means to behave in the Church of God anymore.

I have to admit, I am stunned.

(Rev 3:15 KJV) I know thy works, that thou art neither cold nor hot: I would thou wert cold or hot.

(Rev 3:16 KJV) So then because thou art lukewarm, and neither cold nor hot, I will spue thee out of my mouth.

(Rev 3:17 KJV) Because thou sayest, I am rich, and increased with goods, and have need of nothing; and knowest not that thou art wretched, and miserable, and poor, and blind, and naked:

(Rev 3:18 KJV) I counsel thee to buy of me gold tried in the fire, that thou mayest be rich; and white raiment, that thou mayest be clothed, and that the shame of thy nakedness do not appear; and anoint thine eyes with eyesalve, that thou mayest see.

(Rev 3:19 KJV) As many as I love, I rebuke and chasten: be zealous therefore, and repent.

What I have constantly saying is: If a person is truly changed, there should be some evidences of it.

Race, what people have been saying back to you is that the evidence of change is in a person's spirit, and is displayed not by the clothes they wear, but by the love they show.

take the idea of looking decent in church, take the idea of listening to Godly music instead of worldly music
begging the question
... and make it into something I never suggested

Is that not exactly what you are are suggesting?

Ipse dixit. On what basis?

You admonish us to "look" the part yet you have failed to define what the part should look like. NOWHERE in scripture does it define what looking the part is yet we hear many times in scripture that we are to LIVE the part.

So I ask, are we to look like our Christian brothers and sisters in Africa? How about China? Sudan perhaps? If you are saying that we should wear suits and ties and dresses and heels because that is what God requires of us to come into His presence then perhaps you need to prayerfully rethink your position for not all cultures dress the same yet there are many within all cultures who love the Lord with their whole hearts. Some so much that they are literally sacrificing for it with their lives.

Surely you are aware that many of our brothers and sisters are undergoing horrible persecution for the faith. We certainly don't need persecution over such a trivial matter from within our own "house".

i BEGIN to wonder if you have understood the English words used in our posts.

Your assertions in this post and your Scriptures strike me as very off the wall in terms of what we've been trying to say to you.

Instead of ships passing in the night--it's more like galactic clusters at the furthest reaches of the universe passing . . . if "passing" can be a remotely useful and accurate word in such a case.

I'm stunned that you have such little evident comprehension of what we've been saying.

Your response strikes me as very few shades of responding to us in some sort of Swahili speaking in tongues. Really off the wall compared to what you were supposedly responding to.