[JNB]

The US is not the nation it was in the 30s when the people pulled together, it was a time of high church membership, and most people then had a moral core. The crime in the 30s actually went down . And hate to break it to you dawg, but the truth is unpleasant, when a young person loses hope, sees no future but low wage jobs, they become people with nothing to lose.

The Calvanistic approach to society is unworkable, and leads to revelutions and upheavals. The hereies of John Calvin helped in the long run give rise to Social Darwinism that in turn gave rise to communism.

[Texas_Dawg]

The US is not the nation it was in the 30s when the people pulled together, it was a time of high church membership, and most people then had a moral core. The crime in the 30s actually went down . And hate to break it to you dawg, but the truth is unpleasant, when a young person loses hope, sees no future but low wage jobs, they become people with nothing to lose.

Ha. So on one hand the most moral and church-going time in our country was when people were poor, yet when people are poor they have "nothing to lose" and crime goes up? Which is it?

The Calvanistic approach to society is unworkable, and leads to revelutions and upheavals.

Ummm... you do realize that the original Americans were overwhelmingly more Calvinist than they were Catholic, right?

[KayEyeDoubleDee]

The US is not the nation it was in the 30s when the people pulled together, it was a time of high church membership, and most people then had a moral core

I'm confused. Isn't this what you have been saying?