Environmentalists fear blackout will ultimately affect air quality

Saratogan.com ^ | August 19, 2003 | PAUL POST

[snopercod]

Not only do they stop power plants, but they stop transmission lines, too.

The watermelon jihadists have stopped an underground transmission cable under Lake Erie, which might have prevented this particular blackout.

They also tried to stop the underground power cable between Connecticut and New York from going into service, but an emergency order from the Governor trumped them on that.

It's long past time, folks...

[goldstategop]

The enviro wackos think we should all live in rags and mud huts with animal waste products as our only fuel source. Talk about being environmentally unfriendly!

[snopercod]

Cross Sound Cable gets ok for emergency start [Emergency order to operate during cable dispute]

The power cable runs from New Haven, under Long Island Sound, to Shoreham, Long Island. Power can flow in either direction. But it has not been turned on because a section of the cable is not buried at the proper depth in New Haven Harbor.

Connecticut's attorney general and Department of Environmental Protection have fought against turning the cable, citing environmental concerns.

Where does the junior senator from NY stand on this?

[kittymyrib]

With thousands of prudent persons buying gasoline-powered generators after this black-out, the enviro-wackos will have to deal with dirty air every time there is a brown-out or power failure. Do they really think everyone is going to sit there in the dark so they can have clean air? We see what hypocrits they are when they scream about wind-powered generators being set up in MA. Now that would be clean energy...but they don't like the looks of the windmills. You can't please these nitwits.

[myrabach]

I understand that during the blackout, New York was dumping raw sewage into the ocean. Where do the environmentalists stand on this?

[mewzilla]

On a related note, I've seen a bunch of stories this morning about how FirstEnergy is a big Bush/Cheney supporter. But FE has also made some interesting contributions to Dems, including Bob Toricelli, who got a lot of money before he left, and John Dingell.

[Gritty]

I understand that during the blackout, New York was dumping raw sewage into the ocean. Where do the environmentalists stand on this?

Their ultimate answer can only be "get rid of most of the people, themselves excepted!".

[The Mayor]

they want everything their way, and no way is the right way

[stevio]

I understand that during the blackout, New York was dumping raw sewage into the ocean. Where do the environmentalists stand on this?

My wife heard the same thing. We were planning a vacation at the Jersey shore the week of Sept. 15-19. What is the possibility that this will wash back up on the shore around this time?

[Pest]

I understand that during the blackout, New York was dumping raw sewage into the ocean. Where do the environmentalists stand on this?

The same thing happened in Detroit and Lansing, MI. They are saying that millions of gallons of untreated and partially treated sewage were dumped into the Detroit River. People actually had sewage backed up in their basements.

How can a little smoke compare to this kind of environmental disaster? Yet I haven't heard a thing from enviromentalists about the sewage dump.

My take is that the environmentalists don't really give a crap about the environment. They just want "big business" to be crippled so the poor undeveloped countries can catch up.

[harpseal]

Actually the cable was turned on as part of the recovery from the Blackout . It is not a permanent decision but the power flowed and guess what there seem to be no ill effects from it.

[Guillermo]

It's time the politicians started standing up to these wackos who want the rest of us living in the dark and riding bicycles (while they continue to lounge on their redwood decks and drive SUV's).

[upcountryhorseman]

Does anyone know how many power plants have actually
been built in California in the last four years? I know
there have been permit hearings but the enviro's
got them rejected. I heard that some power plants have
been built in Mexico just across the California border
and they are supplying power to California.

[snopercod]

go to energy.ca.gov for that information

[ladtx]

They seem to have left out some of the text in this story.

"It raises concerns for the fact that we don't have a cap on the total amount of sulfur and nitrogen coming out of the nation's power plants, regardless of how many there are. That's the big deficiency right now," he said, as he sat in the hot, darkened office.

[Spok]

And I thought the environMENTALists would be having orgasms over how much pollution the environment was spared by the blackout...I should have known...

[myrabach]

I would think the shoreline is compromised now... because there is a shore breeze and has been. The water is very cold as the warm water on the top is being pushed eastward while the cold, under water is being brought to shore. If this wind pattern continues, I would guess and its only a guess, the sewage on the bottom would be brought to shore.

Crabbing and lobstering in this area might not be a good idea for awhile either!

[biblewonk]

The enviro wackos think we should all live in rags and mud huts with animal waste products as our only fuel source. Talk about being environmentally unfriendly!

No we don't.

[StriperSniper]

Where does the junior senator from NY stand on this?

Unfortunately not in cement shoes inspecting the cable.

[StriperSniper]

What is the possibility that this will wash back up on the shore around this time?

Should be no problem. I was out fishing in NY Harbor Friday and you would never know it happened. Plus there will be two moon tides(full and new count) by then and that will give the whole area a good 'flushing' ;-) It is the Western Long Island beaches that have the greatest risk with the prevailing currents, even with the troublesome wind pattern we have been having.

mb - Clams are the big problem. Most of Raritan Bay is closed to clamming right now, but will start to be opened, section by section starting I think next week.