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To: caltrop
The WMD genie is already out of the bottle

That's like saying you have a leak in your car's radiator, but you don't think you need to fix it.

Like other ethnic and religious wars, I think we should make it a point to stay out of it - in every way.

So you're an anti-Zionist who doesn't see the moral difference between the Islamic pan-arab culture and the Jewish one? In your view, they're just uninteresting cultural combatants in a land that just happens to have oil? Would you have said the same during the Holocaust,, that the Germans were just another cultural combatant? Because if we were to abandon Israel, there wouldn't be a Jew left alive in Israel within five years. That is the stated goal of all of Israel's enemies. And it is not symmetric: Jews are tolerant of Arabs in most situations.

Americans are not too weak to take a stand in support of Israel. We would be considered weak in the eyes of our enemies if we didn't support Israel now.

There isn't any connection between Iraq and 9/11.

What about the first WTC bombing? The OKC bombing? What about Saddam's attack on Bush Senior? What about the use of chemical weapons on our troops in Gulf war I? What about the continual AAA ordnance hurled against our no-fly enforcers?

In my view, we'll need to return to the draft if our committments aren't quickly reduced and we don't return to a policy which places the emphasis on defense instead of playing policeman to the world.

The draft issue is mostly caused by the low pay our service members receive, at least in my view. In any case, you haven't answered my biggest objection to critics of our war in Iraq: the Axis of Evil is a whole that is larger than the sum of its parts. Iraq was the easiest one on the list to neutralize, and I think we're just getting started.

21 posted on 08/19/2003 11:43:21 AM PDT by risk
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To: risk
My point on WMDs is that, if even a dippy cult in Japan can produce Sarin gas, we'd better accept the fact the stuff is out there. Merely because a country, however, has the stuff doesn't mean they'll be able to use it in anything other than a defensive mode.

I don't know if being completely indifferent to Israel's fate makes me an anti-Zionist. I guess if it does I must also be anti-Biafran, anti-Cambodian, etc. The US taking sides in a religious war is, IMHO, anti-American. My guess is the rest of the world wouldn't see us as weak if we chose to stay out of the Israeli-Palestinian War, just that we finally came to our senses.

If you think Iraq had a connection to 9/11 contact the government with your information. They'll be happy to hear from you as they've tried hard, and without success, to make a connection. If all you've got is promotional material designed to sucker us into invading Iraq they won't be any more interested in it than I am.

The recruiting/retention problems I see looming have nothing to do with pay. I served in the Army to defend my country and stayed in the reserves for the same reason. When I volunteered for Vietnam, where I served for a year, I didn't do it for the combat pay and when I gave up evenings, weekends, took time off and went away every year in the reserves I lost money most of the time. I've since been retired. Were I younger and still in the reserves I'd probably be retiring at the first moment they'd let me - solely because wandering around the globe looking for dragons to slay isn't something I support.

22 posted on 08/19/2003 12:44:14 PM PDT by caltrop
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