Study: Newly arrived Hispanic immigrant men drove down other workers' wages

Associated Press ^ | Aug. 18, 2003 | ALEX VEIGA

[janetgreen]

I use the fax services at www.numbersusa.com. It's a good way to contact the President and the Congress people, and phone calls are important too. We have to keep reminding them that we have an invasion on our hands.

[sweetliberty]

"Men working blue-collar and service jobs in 15 states tended to earn lower pay when they were employed alongside newly arrived Hispanic immigrant men because the new arrivals were often paid less, driving down the wages for all, according to a UCLA study"

I wonder how many tax payer dollars it took these geniuses to come up with this. I could have told them as much for nothing!

[GraniteStateConservative]

You are brilliant. That's hilarious.

[sweetliberty]

[new cruelty]

I could have told them as much for nothing!

I know what you mean, but I get paid for similar studies. I oversee several projects that require studies into issues where the result is often in plain site. Even so, common sense isn't enough for some and due diligence is required. So, my department carries out each inquiry to the fullest extent and documents the information collected, just in case anyone ever asks to see the methodology for reaching a certain conclusion. In that respect, to most people, this part of my job isn't very interesting and is more akin to watching grass grow.

[janetgreen]

I tried to send this cartoon to the White House, but I guess I don't know how. It wouldn't "paste" onto an e-mail. I'm computer illiterate.

[sasafras]

And what have you done to stop it? We all sit around and talk the talk but what are we doing to stop the illegal and govt. sanctioned control of our country by illegal mexicans??

[HitmanLV]

I never would have guessed.

[new cruelty]

Its a good thing they did the study. : )

[StopGlobalWhining]

See this posting from the O'Reilly show: Ford Foundation vs. the Constitutional Republic/

HAWKINS: Well -- well, one of the first things the Ford Foundation did was they created a group called MALDEF, the Mexican American Legal Defense and Educational Foundation, and this -- this was a radical alternative group to what was then the mainline Hispanic political group, which was LULAC, which was the League of United Latin American Citizens.

And it's important to know that LULAC had the world "citizen" in its title. It was a middle-class, Hispanic movement which stressed assimilation. They wanted a policy that would move their people up.

Of course, there was -- there were -- they had a civil-rights agenda. They didn't want to be discriminated against. But they wanted to move into American society, be good citizens, be Americanized, and take their place in the United States.

MALDEF was set up to counter this group, to set up a radical group, which would be opposed to assimilation, and they... O'REILLY: It's unbelievable.

[sweetliberty]

You have to save it to your hard drive and send it as an attachment OR you can right click on the picture and select properties. Copy the url and paste it as a link in the email.

[D Rider]

Perhaps on the verge of realizing mass immigration, especially illegal, disproportionately depresses (as intended) the market power of minorities, the poor, and labor workers of America who are citizens. Sounds racist to me.

It is only racist if John (Whitebread) Smith says it, not when ALEX VEIGA say's it.

[janetgreen]

Thanks, that's one cartoon I'll save!

[sarasmom]

"They are not slaves"
Yes they are.
The new 21st century self inflicted version.
At the mercy of their new vile slaveowners, who will pay what they want to pay the slave, regardless of what "market prices" dictate labor is worth.
After all,it is unfair for the slaveowner to have to abide by the laws they allowed to be enacted, they should ignore all those that are detrimental to themselves.
Following laws are for the other guy, the "stupid ones" who follow the laws while they work to change the ones they think wrong.
Slaveowners are so very special!
Yeah,they should all be applauded for their "revolt" against the system, against the unfairness of USA labor laws! /sarcasm///
Now what is the definition of a criminal...?

[freedumb2003]

It's a mess for sure, but we can continue to fight with the ballot.

We tried. It was called Prop 187 and the Liberal Courts overturned it.

I truly believe God has not yet forsaken America.

The Lord Helps them that helps themselves. Collectively, we are allowing liberals to create a Socialist Gomorrah. Remember what God did to that place.

[Redcloak]

I wonder of the study made any distinction between "newly arrived" legal immigrants and "newly arrived" illegal immigrants. I suspect that illegals are the ones who drove down labor costs.

[Gunslingr3]

"They are not slaves" Yes they are.

Sorry, they are not. Slavery is involuntary servitude. These people come here willingly pursuing a better life by offering to work for money. You besmirch their honest effort to better their lives, in addition to the people who have, and in some sad cases even today, suffer from actual slavery.

At the mercy of their new vile slaveowners, who will pay what they want to pay the slave, regardless of what "market prices" dictate labor is worth.

'Price' is a ratio at which a trade takes places. A market price is one set in a voluntary trade, and those workers come here voluntarily to exchange their labor for money. If the people who had money, and work they wanted done, did not offer sufficient money in trade for the work it would go undone.

After all,it is unfair for the slaveowner to have to abide by the laws they allowed to be enacted, they should ignore all those that are detrimental to themselves.

I reject out of hand your assertion that businessmen want restrictions on the size of the labor pool. It is the unions who demand people not be free to exchange their labor for money at a price they are willing to make the exchange.

Following laws are for the other guy, the "stupid ones" who follow the laws while they work to change the ones they think wrong.

If the law is immoral, why should it be obeyed? Did the Founders submit themselves to law, or recognize that individual libery is more important? You can disobey the law and work to change it.

Now what is the definition of a criminal...?

Impossible to even know these days given the reams of regulations and rules inflicted upon us by creatures in Washington. People who hid runaway slaves used to be criminals. I won't fault them for disobeying a bad law.

[dalebert]

I write my congressmen and the President. I don't trade where they trade. If I tried to make a citizens arrest they would stab me or the law would put me in jail. Only thing I can think of is a tax protest. I honestly don't thin the government is representing my interests in this situation.

[sarasmom]

So you consider yourself in the same class of people who ran the "underground railroad" and risked their lives to abolish slavery?
?????
ROTFLMAO!!!

[dalebert]

See Agnin reply 18 to me. I have a buddy who makes trips to the border often and he says we are stepping things up down there. Just don't hear aobut it in the press. Besides, who the heck can stop up California.