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To: archy
But I took part in the '73 war on the Israeli side as a machalnik tank crewman. And you?

Not Israeli, but rode as a medic into plenty of combat with armored cavalry in Vietnam '68-69.

I see Jewish chosenness in religious terms, i.e., carrying ethical monotheism to the world, so I basically agree with what you say about communists (atheists) and socialists (its own religion, too) through which Jews abnegate God's oneness.

Believing then too, that America, as the Judeo-Christian nation, is also divinely chosen to project and carry goodness into the world, as no one else can on the same scale, I would never condem the people of Israel for what I actually see as the very few political foibles of their leaders.

Both our nations, I believe - though it often seems obscure, and even at times unobtainable through human corruption - yet share a destiny in Holiness.

12 posted on 08/19/2003 1:55:14 PM PDT by onedoug
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To: onedoug
But I took part in the '73 war on the Israeli side as a machalnik tank crewman. And you?

Not Israeli, but rode as a medic into plenty of combat with armored cavalry in Vietnam '68-69.

I arrived at Ton Sohn Nhut on 29 January, 1968, just a few hours before the swell fireworks display welcoming my arrival. They didn't have to go to all that trouble just for me. Neither was I a stranger to 113s and Sheridans, though I spent most of my first tour with the 1/16 Infantry in the Iron Triangle, sometimes detailed to 69th Armor on road escort jobs. Though the expense-paid tour of Southeast Asias spas and resorts was enlightening, I left in March of '70 after an old war injury began acting up. About two weeks old.

Among my other scattershot tasks was introducing young evac medics used to the FLA and Dodge crackerbox wheeled ambulances to tracked M113A1 and M577 medic tracks...and the maintenance thereof. I'll take a *rat six* walk in the woods escort job instead anyday....

I see Jewish chosenness in religious terms, i.e., carrying ethical monotheism to the world, so I basically agree with what you say about communists (atheists) and socialists (its own religion, too) through which Jews abnegate God's oneness.

Concur. [and with myself, too, I guess. Seems likely. But I don't think it's limited to monotheists; the Asatruist Nine Noble Virtues offer a similar outlook that places them squarely alongside our moral outlook; so too does that of some Buddhists, Jainist Gurkhas and Animists I've known.]

Believing then too, that America, as the Judeo-Christian nation,

Well, at least as the primary Judeo-Christian nation, for now at least, if not necessarily for all time, nor as ever was. Or so it seems our adversaries view such things, e.g. *USA= the Great Satan*

is also divinely chosen to project and carry goodness into the world, as no one else can on the same scale, I would never condem the people of Israel for what I actually see as the very few political foibles of their leaders.

Trust me, some of their leiders are as capable of as thoroughly betraying their people and country as some of America's have been. And some, less malevolent in intent, are equally corrupt or incompetent, not much of an improvement.

Both our nations, I believe - though it often seems obscure, and even at times unobtainable through human corruption - yet share a destiny in Holiness.

Again, agreed. And we can even be at cross-purposes or in competition with each other at times [ask the folks at General Dynamics trying to sell Abrams 2000 tank upgrades to the Turks about that!] and yet remain allies. And there are other countries, neutralist or non-aligned, or recently independent, that also come to mind, as well as those swept away by tidal waves of the ant-people; Rhodesia comes to mind immediately, and I hope Taiwan is not soon to follow.

14 posted on 08/19/2003 2:26:38 PM PDT by archy (Keep in mind that the milk of human kindness comes from a beast that is both cannibal and a vampire.)
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