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Borrowed Sermons Roil Downtown Congregation
The Washington Post ^ | August 16, 2003 | Bill Broadway

Posted on 08/18/2003 12:06:07 PM PDT by Interesting Times

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To: BubbaBasher
I recommend Jackson find a Gay lover as soon as possible. Then all will be forgiven.

He'd be bishop material then, for sure...

41 posted on 08/18/2003 1:47:36 PM PDT by Interesting Times (Leftists view the truth as an easily avoidable nuisance)
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To: hellinahandcart
You'd think a charismatic preacher, especially, would never run short of inspiration.

I think it's really a question of priorities. Writing sermons is tedious and time-consuming.

Clearly it was interfering with Jackson's ability to do the work of the Left.

42 posted on 08/18/2003 1:49:52 PM PDT by Interesting Times (Leftists view the truth as an easily avoidable nuisance)
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To: Interesting Times
the evidence presently available is quite sufficient to make a judgement

Sure, judgements are made all the time.

43 posted on 08/18/2003 1:59:27 PM PDT by RightWhale (Repeal the Law of the Excluded Middle)
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To: All
From the press release at the time of Jackson's installation at National City Church:

"Alvin Jackson is the right man at the right place at the right time," said the Rev. Joan Brown Campbell, general secretary of the National Council of Churches of Christ in the USA, at a pre-installation banquet. Jackson, she said, is called to serve in a church "in a city with tremendous challenges — to bear witness to a nation that needs models of inclusiveness."

44 posted on 08/18/2003 2:08:51 PM PDT by Interesting Times (Leftists view the truth as an easily avoidable nuisance)
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To: Interesting Times
"Alvin Jackson is the right man at the right place at the right time," said the Rev. Joan Brown Campbell, general secretary of the National Council of Churches of Christ in the USA, at a pre-installation banquet.

Ah, yes, the same Joan Brown Campbell who, like many of her NCC colleagues, gets positively cuddly with apostasy but recoils at the name of Jesus:
. . .The NCC has been and continues to be ideologically and politically left and liberal in theology. Joan Brown Campbell (former General Secretary of the NCC) even "expressed alarm over George W. Bush for having named Jesus Christ his most influential philosopher." Alarm??

46 posted on 08/18/2003 2:45:12 PM PDT by rhema
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To: steplock
*****A non-story - plagerism is only important in politics and copyrighted materials*****

Read the whole article. Tewell has said that his work IS copyrighted.

As far as preaching from the Bible, the Bible is NOT copyrighted, except for interpretations.

Jackson STOLE the material from Tewell, and claimed it as his own.

Then he pulled the "victim" act to gain sympathy.
47 posted on 08/18/2003 2:58:01 PM PDT by kitkat (I)
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To: BibChr
You'd better do a Google search, Dan, to see if any of your columns and essays are being similarly "borrowed."

Actually, there's probably scant chance of that happening. The pastors who would preach your kind of sermons aren't the ones who'd steal sermons verbatim from someone else's web site.

No, my friend, if you wanted your remarks to be pilfered, you'd have to make them theologically mealy-mouthed enough to appeal to NCC-type wolves in shepherds' clothing.

48 posted on 08/18/2003 3:11:09 PM PDT by rhema
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To: Interesting Times
Back at the turn of the last century, there was a thriving mail-order business for sermons. Lots of preachers would "send away" for these things.... some of them even ordered by subscription.

Of course, these guys were PAYING for the words....

i don't know if anyone does that anymore....

Tia

49 posted on 08/18/2003 3:21:24 PM PDT by tiamat ("Just a Bronze-Age Gal, Trapped in a Techno World!")
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To: rhema
<< The pastors who would preach your kind of sermons aren't the ones who'd steal sermons verbatim from someone else's web site. >>

Oh, I don't know.

J. Vernon McGee said he heard a sermon once, and asked the preacher afterwards how long it had taken him to write it.

"Oh, just a couple of days," he replied brightly.

"Isn't that something?" said McGee. "It took me two weeks to write!"

(From sketchy memory.)

Dan
50 posted on 08/18/2003 3:28:57 PM PDT by BibChr ("...behold, they have rejected the word of the LORD, so what wisdom is in them?" [Jer. 8:9])
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To: BibChr
OK, then, full speed ahead with the Google search. Let judgment begin at the house of God.
51 posted on 08/18/2003 3:32:34 PM PDT by rhema
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To: Interesting Times
Thanks for the Ping. I didn't see this as I've long ago given up the Compost H'mm now a Joe Biden in the pulpit. I wonder if Hobby saw this??
52 posted on 08/18/2003 3:36:22 PM PDT by GreyFriar
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To: GreyFriar
btt
53 posted on 08/18/2003 3:42:20 PM PDT by tracer (/b>)
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To: Interesting Times
It will be entertaining to watch his fellow travellers deflect
 any suggestion that Jackson is unfit to lead just because he
 steals the sermons of other ministers.


But plagiarism and gambling aren't really sins, are they?
Maybe vices.  Yeah, that's the ticket.
54 posted on 08/18/2003 5:00:33 PM PDT by gcruse (http://gcruse.typepad.com/)
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To: steplock
Please read the referenced article regarding "ethics of Sermons". And I don't know how many pastors of Churches you know - but none I do would ever condone doing what this man did.
55 posted on 08/18/2003 7:08:52 PM PDT by txzman (Jer 23:29)
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To: Interesting Times
" Please tell me you can." Unfortunately it is apparent even here on FR that the political correctness has creeped into religion, integrity, and ethics. I find it amazing on this thread how many have just condoned lying, misappropriation, and obvious mis-leading of a religious congregation who placed trust in a Pastor.
56 posted on 08/18/2003 7:35:46 PM PDT by txzman (Jer 23:29)
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To: txzman
And so it came to pass that one day the wise and tidy man put all his days to word to give to them who may hear; and in his mind the word was but his to give, but some who came said they had been this way not long ago, and so they left and the wise and tidy man wept.
57 posted on 08/18/2003 8:17:15 PM PDT by Old Professer
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To: Interesting Times
Thanks for the ping. I've been following this story. Monday afternoon at 4 o'clock two Washington TV stations mentioned it and said it would be on the 5 o'clock news. But it wasn't. Apparently, it became a non-story between 4 and 5 pm. I wonder why.
58 posted on 08/19/2003 8:05:14 PM PDT by zot
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To: zot
Perhaps somebody told them that the Disciples of Christ denomination isn't actually part of the religious Right...
59 posted on 08/20/2003 7:32:44 AM PDT by Interesting Times (Leftists view the truth as an easily avoidable nuisance)
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