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Guest Workers, Yes. Amnesty, No!
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| August 18, 2003
| Rep. Tom Tancredo (R.-Colo.)
Posted on 08/18/2003 10:39:27 AM PDT by hinterlander
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To: hinterlander
Guest Workers? Good thing that doesn't sound like some Democrat-induced, pinko commie phrase.
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posted on
08/18/2003 10:40:30 AM PDT
by
WestPacSailor
(Never attend a gunfight with a handgun the caliber of which starts with less than a "4.")
To: Sabertooth; Paleo Conservative; Cacique; Clemenza; Tancredo Fan
Tancredo Ping
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posted on
08/18/2003 10:40:57 AM PDT
by
rmlew
("Millions for defense, but not one cent for tribute.")
To: hinterlander
The so-called temporary worker scheme currently lurking in Congress could be a knockout punch for the American worker and one of the most prolific illegal alien amnesties of all time.
Under the ludicrously misnamed Border Security and Immigration Improvement Act, H.R. 2899 and S. 1461 conceal a deadly one-two punch against America:
a massive scheme to import new foreign workers into the United States, and
an amnesty plan giving for illegal aliens already in the United States.
This lunacy is the brainchild of three Arizona Republicans House members Jim Kolbe and Jeff Flake, and Senator John McCain. With the introduction of these bills in the House and Senate last month, this trio deserve all-time lows the
most horriblest clowns list maintained by the invaluable immigration reform radio talkshow host Terry Anderson.
The plan adds two new visa categories to the existing laundry list of non-immigrant visas in section 101(a)(15) of the Immigration Act.
The plan will allow an apparently unlimited number of brand-new foreign workers under a new H-4A category, and will grant new H-4B visas - also apparently unlimited to illegal aliens and to visa over-stayers who are already working in the United States without authorization.
Heres a handy memory aid for the proposed new visas:
H-4A visa The Foreign Worker Importation Act of 2003.
H-4B visa The Illegal Alien and September 11th Hijacker Adjustment Act of 2003.
The H-4A aliens will be new arrivals who apply for their visas at U.S. consulates abroad in order to take pre-arranged jobs in the United States that Americans supposedly wont do or wont do for what the employers are willing to pay, more accurately.
The H-4A applicants will miraculously apply and be hired for American jobs while theyre still in their home countries, and while Americans are unemployed at home. Amazing, isnt it?
Successful H-4A applicants will be imported for three years, renewable for another three years. Corporations employing more than 500 workers can get in on the H-4A action for a one-time fee of $1,000. Smaller companies can buy the privilege of importing foreign workers for even fewer pieces of silver $500. Each lucky H-4A alien will pay an additional application fee, to be determined later.
After getting a foot in the door with non-immigrant status, the next step for these newly-minted non-immigrants will be to file for permanent residence through the very same employer or perhaps through a new-found family member.
And after seven years with a green card voila! United States citizenship.
Non-immigrant visas are intended for foreign tourists, students, diplomats, journalists, crewmen, nurses, artists, entertainers, language students, cultural exchange visitors, and certain of their spouses and children. The visas allow foreign nationals into the country legally for limited purposes, without resorting to sneaking in through someones ranch, or in the trunk of a car.
Whether any non-immigrants ever actually leave the United States is another story. But under this new temporary worker plan, non-immigrants who let their status expire (along with those who never had status in the first place) can apply for an H-4B visa and become legal again.
Amazingly, the H-4B visa program is reserved for illegal aliens only. It snubs the law-abiding student and tourist to reward scofflaws who take American jobs without authorization. Being illegal is a requirement for the H-4B visa!
Illegal aliens who claim to have been living and working illegally in the United States prior to August 1, 2003, can apply for a three-year H-4B visa for $1,500. And if they cant afford the $1,500 fee all at once, Secretary Tom Ridges friendly Department of Homeland Security will extend them credit at market rates. [H.R. 2899, pages 27-28 honest!]
The three-year H-4B visa allows aliens and their willing American employers an extension for as long as it takes to change status over to the H-4A category. And once the former illegal aliens cleansed by their H-4B visa make the jump over to the H-4A status, the clock starts all over again. As newly-minted H-4A aliens theyll get three more years of employment, renewable for yet another three years, increasing their chances of finding a way to petition for permanent resident status.
But who will get the H-4B visa amnesty?
Remember the September 11th terrorists who came to the United States claiming to be foreign students, but never attended class or were tourists who just disappeared?
If the jihad fanatics managed to find willing H-4B employers, they would have been eligible to change back to legal non-immigrant status under this insane plan. They also could have prolonged their stay even longer by adjusting again from H-4B to H-4A.
But the H-4B Illegal Alien and September 11th Hijacker Adjustment Act gets even worse. The H-4B visas throw a gigantic monkey-wrench into the already ludicrous and delay-ridden Immigration Court system of the Executive Office for Immigration Review EOIR.
Thanks to the three stooges from Arizona, aliens will be able to stop their deportation proceedings, file for a three-year H-4B visa, and walk out of Immigration Court with lawful status all from the very same process that was supposed to be deporting them! [See H.R. 2899, page 30]
And if an aliens H-4B application gets denied due to Immigration Act
section 212(a)(2), (3), and (4) inadmissibility who cares! Theyve just successfully tied up their own deportation for an eternity while waiting for their fellow 8.4 million illegal alien workers to have their H-4B adjustment applications decided too.
Eduardo Aguirres crack team at the Bureau of Citizenship and Immigration Services (BCIS) will be ready for all those new H-4B applications, right?
Unfortunately, non-deportation of aliens in the federal immigration bureaucracy is nothing new. The H-4B visa is just one more below-the-radar amnesty program, and yet another get-out-of-jail-free card in the ongoing permanent amnesty that is the Justice Departments EOIR Immigration Court.
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posted on
08/18/2003 11:47:26 AM PDT
by
VU4G10
(Have You Forgotten?)
To: rmlew; CheneyChick; vikingchick; Victoria Delsoul; WIMom; kmiller1k; mhking; rdb3; Travis McGee; ...
((((((growl)))))

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posted on
08/18/2003 11:47:40 AM PDT
by
Sabertooth
(Viva la 187!)
To: Sabertooth
Guest Workers, Yes. Amnesty, No!Guest Workers, NO! Amnesty, No!

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posted on
08/18/2003 11:58:11 AM PDT
by
rdb3
(N.O.T.O.R.I.O.U.S. Nupe)
To: VU4G10
bttt
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posted on
08/18/2003 12:44:57 PM PDT
by
junta
(Xenophobia a perfectly reasonable response to the feckless stupidity of globalism.)
To: rdb3
NO guestworker program for foriegners until ALL our present welfare slugs have been pried off the couch and away from Ophra/J.Springer/Stern and are working at least in one of the entry-level positions many of these Illegals have swamped.
NO Amnesty for anyone who has violated our laws ... period.
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posted on
08/18/2003 12:45:00 PM PDT
by
CIBvet
(It's about preserving OUR Borders, OUR Language and OUR American Culture)
To: CIBvet
100% agree. The illegals situation and the welfare system are two slugs feeding on each other. Kill one, and the other one will not survive.
Reform welfare and put everyone to work- I mean everyone- even in the fields, diggind ditches, etc. Those on welfare can work while they develop a trade so they can stop feeding off the government's teet. Make those on welfare work these jobs and illegals will have no reason to come here.
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posted on
08/18/2003 1:14:58 PM PDT
by
rintense
To: Sabertooth; rmlew; CheneyChick; vikingchick; Victoria Delsoul; WIMom; kmiller1k; mhking; rdb3; ...
Close the borders.
Arrest and instantly deport all criminal aliens and every last one of their anchor infants.
Ban for ten years, every one of those on penalty of imprisonment and/or life banishment, from entering any United States property, including any one of our embassies and consular offices.
Make repeat illegal immigration punishable by imprisonment for twenty years to life.
Make English Our Nation's Official Language.
Ban all domestic multi-lingual forms and [Especially "educational"] services.
Institute an emergency ten-year immigration moratorium coupled with a mandatory English Language reassessment of every recently-granted and all future United Sates of America Citizenships.
Take care to protect our:
BORDERS!
LANGUAGE!
CULTURE!
Or Our Beloved FRaternal Republic -- and the Civilization we both Vanguard and forever Guard -- are both doomed.
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posted on
08/18/2003 1:58:15 PM PDT
by
Brian Allen
( Rebellion to tyrants is obedience to God - Thomas Jefferson)
To: Brian Allen
Close the borders.I'll support that, provided that both the northern and southern borders are sealed simultaneously. No compromise.
Arrest and instantly deport all criminal aliens and every last one of their anchor infants.
Please provide a plan that would accomplish this.
Ban for ten years, every one of those on penalty of imprisonment and/or life banishment, from entering any United States property, including any one of our embassies and consular offices.
Agreed.
Make repeat illegal immigration punishable by imprisonment for twenty years to life.
No dice. That's logically inconsistent because, by default, this provides the alien virtual citizenship because said alien would be supported on our dime. Your previous statement would suffice by permanent banishment with penalties including death for repeat offenders.
Make English Our Nation's Official Language.
This would take a Constitutional amendment on the national level, but I would support the individual States doing this.
Ban all domestic multi-lingual forms and [Especially "educational"] services.
X Amendment. See above.
Institute an emergency ten-year immigration moratorium coupled with a mandatory English Language reassessment of every recently-granted and all future United Sates of America Citizenships.
Agreed.
Or Our Beloved FRaternal Republic -- and the Civilization we both Vanguard and forever Guard -- are both doomed.
:-/ Hyerbolic, but I digress.

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posted on
08/18/2003 2:40:12 PM PDT
by
rdb3
(N.O.T.O.R.I.O.U.S. Nupe)
To: hinterlander
There should never be any kind of reward for lawbreaking. These criminals have only one right, in my opinion. A trip back to Mexico.
Statistics have shown that every time amnesty is even discussed, more parasites come slithering across the border in hopes that they'll be in the right place at the right time.
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posted on
08/18/2003 2:46:49 PM PDT
by
Allegra
To: hinterlander
Tancredo could probably be trusted to come up with a workable guest worker plan --- but with unemployment very high expecially along the border, and welfare caseloads up, and millions of jobs leaving the country because of free trade, there seems to be no need at all in bringing in any number of low-skilled workers. We need Americans working, all immigration should be inversely proportional to welfare rates and unemployment rates.
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posted on
08/18/2003 3:20:42 PM PDT
by
FITZ
To: rdb3
<< Close the borders.
I'll support that, provided that both the northern and southern borders are sealed simultaneously. No compromise. >>
Why stop at only those two?
Have you had a look lately at how many international ports and international airports our borders comprise -- and at the numbers of aliens who assail and assault them every minute of every day of every week of every year?
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posted on
08/18/2003 4:16:14 PM PDT
by
Brian Allen
( Rebellion to tyrants is obedience to God - Thomas Jefferson)
To: FITZ
Tancredo for President. America has had enough of this insanity encouraged by George Bush and his buddies.
To: Brian Allen
Why stop at only those two? Good point. Seal them all.

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posted on
08/18/2003 5:44:33 PM PDT
by
rdb3
(N.O.T.O.R.I.O.U.S. Nupe)
To: WestPacSailor
bttt for later
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posted on
08/18/2003 7:44:43 PM PDT
by
citizen
(Tom Tancredo for President!)
To: Sabertooth
I don't support a guest worker program.
- We have too many Americans out of work already.
- The "guest workers" always forget to go home which will lead to larger amnesty numbers.
Both my senators support these guest worker programs but say they oppose amnesty. I don't see it working that way.
To: hinterlander
I remember in 1969 during a labor shortage in Connecticut Our guy went to the Ct.labor dept. to see if we could hire Canadians to fill our Jobs.
The Labor dept, said we would have to hire pregnant women and children first, end of discission.
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posted on
08/19/2003 5:09:53 AM PDT
by
chatham
To: VU4G10
Bump! Welcome to FR!
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posted on
08/19/2003 10:03:49 AM PDT
by
4Freedom
(America is no longer the 'Land of Opportunity', it's the 'Land of Illegal Alien Opportunists'!!!)
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