URGENT! CALLS NEEDED TO PROTECT THE SAN PEDRO RIVER (BIO-BARF!!!)

http://actionnetwork.org/BIODIVERSITY/notice-description.tcl?newsletter_id=2004533 ^ | 8/11/03 | Dr. Robin Silver

[SandRat]

URGENT! CALLS NEEDED TO PROTECT
THE SAN PEDRO RIVER

UPDATE, August 11, 2003

Conferees deferring to “undecided” McCain!
Call Today!

The fate of the Renzi/San Pedro Killing Rider is now in the combined House/Senate Armed Service Committee Conference. The Rider is on the House version of the FY04 National Defense Authorization Bill. It is not on the Senate version.

House Republican Armed Service Committee members are still proving incorrigible. The Senate members are deferring to Senator John McCain. Senator McCain remains “undecided” and is currently considering support for a nearly equally bad revision of the Rider requested by the Army. The Army’s revision seeks to ignore the deteriorating environmental baseline from any future Department of Defense analysis. This would also kill the San Pedro River. Please call Senator McCain. If you already did call, he needs called again.

Talking points:

• Kills the last surviving desert river in the Southwest
• Has nothing to do with national security or military readiness.
• Reverses Congress’ 1988 action protecting the river as Federal property with creation of the San Pedro National Riparian Conservation Area managed by the BLM.
• Is not necessary, as Ft. Huachuca already has an agreement to protect the River that is working.
• An Endangered Species Act is the only law protecting the San Pedro. It is now working. Any ESA exemption kills the River.

The San Pedro River is truly one of Arizona's, the Nation's, and the World's environmental crown jewels. The San Pedro River is the last naturally functioning desert river ecosystems in the southwestern United States.
Please contact Senator McCain [DC: (202) 224-2235, Phx: (602) 952- 2410; Tempe: (480) 897-6289; Tucson: 520) 670-6334].

Please review the above talking points with Senator McCain and ask him NOT to allow the Renzi Rider or any ESA exempting revision to be part of the bill. It has nothing to do with national security. It will kill the San Pedro River, the last surviving desert river in the Southwest.

Thank you!!
For Info: Dr. Robin Silver, 602.246.4170 or rsilver@biologicaldiversity.org

[SandRat]

I've posted this so that all of FreeRepublic can know something about an enemy we are facing here. This same group plagues Nevada, Alaska, Utah, California, New Mexico, Colorado, and Wyoming so get to know your enemy and the lies they will tell.

This group has been terrorizing us since the ESA was passed. Their goal is to clear the entire county of all ranchers, close Ft. Huachuca, and to-hell with anyone else in the county.

In fact the author of this piece of tripe has said that the river (really a seasonal intermittent stream for the last 120 years) would be better off if everyone living here would just abandon everything and leave.

[Libertarianize the GOP]

ping

[WhyisaTexasgirlinPA]

...really a seasonal intermittent stream for the last 120 years...

ROFL..... "Save the River" sounds a lot better to the wackos than "Save the seasonal intermittent stream".......

[SandRat]

You will have an accident over this one; the illeagals call it the "San Pedro Freeway" and trash it like the worst Slum.

This enviroNAZI group doesn’t give a hoot about that.

Read Clancy's book "Rainbow Six" and you have a pretty good picture of the thought process of this enviroNAZI group.

[WhyisaTexasgirlinPA]

They don't care what they save, as long as they thwart their "enemies"......

[SandRat]

You have that so very right!

We have a radio station that does local talk radio ala RUSH and the local host refers to Dr. Silver as Osama Bin Silver. The host also refers to the group as “The Center for Dumba….” But all that gets out over the airwaves a short eh or ah sound but everyone knows it should be DUMBASSES.

[farmfriend]

Rights, farms, environment ping.

Let me know if you wish to be added or removed from this list.

[E.G.C.]

BTTT!!!!!!

[SandRat]

Know Your enemy.

Center for Biodiversity,

Earth Justice

[okie01]

"In fact the author of this piece of tripe has said that the river (really a seasonal intermittent stream for the last 120 years)..."

The San Pedro?

Drove from Tucson to Bisbee last Spring and, thus, crossed the San Pedro and paralleled it for quite a few miles.

Anytime you can walk across a stream without getting anything wet, it probably doesn't really deserve the term "river". Even in late March, the San Pedro is obviously a "seasonal, intermittent stream" and is accurately marked as such on topographic maps.

Can't say it would make much sense to propose a reservoir on that watercourse. Unless you're into puddles, of course...

[SandRat]

You are so right!

But if you check out any of the CBDs pictures or talks about it they try to make you think that it is a river like the tree huggers back east get to see.

Even National Geographic (you remember them they hired Propaganda Peter Arnett) when they did a story on the San Pedro depicted it as a magnificent river like you see back east.

They are all of the same sick thought process as the villians of Clancey's "Rainbow Six!"

[okie01]

I'm guessing that the deepest point in that Nat'l Geo photo is, oh, maybe...six inches.

[SandRat]

Believe it or not there are a couple of small ponds that reach about 5' if there's been a big rain storm for a couple of days.

Other than that I've seen horses streatch over a flat rock produce more water.

[okie01]

The mighty San Pedro, near Charleston, AZ -- as seen through the eyes of Topo Zone.

Looks like "seasonal, intermittent" to me...

[stboz]

Read Clancy's book "Rainbow Six" and you have a pretty good picture of the thought process of this enviroNAZI group.

You have it figured out. The nazis and their owners want the whole planet for themselves. They do, in fact, want the rest of us dead. Hyperbole? I wish it was.

[SandRat]

Try convincing National Geographic, Forest Guardians, Sierra Club, Audubon Club, Earth First, Green Peace, Center for BioDiversity, America's Rivers, EarthJustice, etc., etc., etc. of the FACTS and not believing in their LSD induced fantasies.

Facts are facts but you can't convince them of that.

[SandRat]

Too bad we can't treat the whole lot of them to the same joyous commune with nature that the Terrs got at the end of Clancey's book.

[okie01]

"Facts are facts but you can't convince them of that."

Every time I enter into an argument with a liberal (e.g., my sister), I am reminded of a highly relevant quote: "Everybody is entitled to their own opinion...but not to their own set of facts."

Winston Churchill? Ronald Reagan? George Will? P.J. O'Rourke?

[SandRat]

The leader of this lot Dr. Osama Bin Silver as the local radio station calls him is a left over from the fringed, beads and V.C. sandal crowd despite his being a licensed Surgeon in the Phoenix area. I'd like to get my hands on his FBI file and if he even has one his military 201 file, (personnel file). There'd lots of juicy stuff in there to cut the snakes head off with in the papers.

These poltroons even deny that the earthquake in the late 1800's forced the river underground flooding the silver mines of Tombstone and ending the silver rush, leaving the entire southeastern corner of the state sitting on basically one big lake (not really its like a big sponge that's full of water.)

[okie01]

I recall a trenchant quote from a resident of Show Low after the fire last year.

"Don't come up here in your designer jeans and luxury SUVs telling me how much you 'love the woods.'"

I suspect Dr. Osama bin Silver, as you call him, may fit that description perfectly.

They're liberals. They truly care for, but know better than, the 'little people', of course...