Moving Out of California

[sweetliberty]

Well, Denver and Boulder are definitely "liberal intense". Colorado Springs is slightly less so.

[Dog Gone]

Another nice thing about Texas is that you are free to shop around for an electricity provider, and you can make some pretty good deals. You'll probably use more electricity than you currently do in California, but thanks to deregulation here, you're paying much less per kwh.

[El Gran Salseron]

To plagirize someone else's tagline, ( I've forgotten who it was, ).......I wasn't born in Texas but I moved here just as soon as I could.

[Conservateacher]

pssssst...follow the Californians and their companies to Idaho. But don't tell anyone I told you. ssssssssssssssh.

[sweetliberty]

"Tyler has gorgeous flowers."

While most of Texas is either too extreme in temperature, landscape, population or western culture for my taste, the area around Tyler, Marshall, Longview, etc. are quite nice and more green and southern in flavor. The people are very nice too, in my experience.

[VOA]

I grew up in north-central Oklahoma, have relatives in Dallas and working friends in Houston.

My suggestion: check out the places in this order-
1. Texas
2. Oklahoma
3. Tie: Missouri or Colorado
4. Tie: Kansas or Arkansas
5. Louisiana

Texas is still a nation. And generally attracts the more robust, hard-working folks
from around the world, including even the undocumenteds from Mexico.
Plus, Texas is even on it's own power grid.
Personally, I'd go for the Dallas-Ft. Worth Metroplex or San Antonio, with Houston
down the list just due to the muggy weather...but you do have two airports for getting out
of town.

The rest of the rankings are just my own idiosyncratic listing on the general
business vitality and innovation of the different states.

The reason I did put Oklahoma just after Texas is that it does receive a bit of
"spin-off" business activity from Texas, shares the same general attitudes
about 2nd Amendment rights and politics are pretty conservative.

Do be careful about transportation in/out of certain places, e.g., Wichita, KS
even if it has Boeing and other aircraft plants has up/down periods in the
commercial aviation; can be VERY expensive to fly in/out when one of the major
lines pulls out of the market!

[ysoitanly]

sarcasm only in honor of your tagline - I am honored you replied to me, legend you are here!

[gitmogrunt]

I would recommend the Ft. Worth Area of Texas. Because:

(a.)it's not as crowded as the Dallas Area.

(b.)Plenty of jobs, if you want to work, and affordable housing.

(c.)No State Income Taxes!!!!!!!!!

(d.)"Your money" will actually be "your money"!!!!

[spokeshave]

"pssssst...follow the Californians and their companies to Idaho.

What is south Idaho like...winters...?

state and local taxes....any sales tax...property tax rates.

Also thinking of leaving Kalifornia.

[Lazamataz]

sarcasm only in honor of your tagline - I am honored you replied to me, legend you are here!

LOL! I'm a legend in my own mind.

I'm geniunely amused people say that stuff. I'm really just an ordinary guy with lots of faults (ask the ex-wife) and just kinda a schmo.

I'm flattered you think higher of me, but I need to let you know who I really am. :o)

[mrtysmm]

Whereever you decide to go, I wish you and your Dad good luck. I hope you find what you're looking for. I'm sure you're not the only one thinking of getting out of the land of 'fruits and nuts'. If Ca. doesn't get some help soon, there will be a great "whoooosing" sound from all the people leaving there.

[mrtysmm]

LOL....that is a great bumper.....I wish I had one. I'm from NY......pity me! I didn't vote for the ------ and tried to warn everyone I knew against voting for her...but NY is severly steeped in liberalism. Maybe after some time, the public here will decide that enough is enough, of her!

[templar]

The winters are brutal and painfully long. The dryness sucks the moisture right out of your body.

It depends a lot on where you live and the altitude. If you choose Mountain towns, the winters can be quite a shock for someone from the lowlands. The dryness is a major plus for those of us that hate the humidity of the lowlands and the coast. But where I live in northern Colorado along the eastern edge of the mountains, we average one fairly large snow storm a year that lasts only a day or two, temperatures in the coldest months usually allow for daytime outdoor activities with only light clothing most of the time (even t-shirts) and rarely get much below 20 at night. The sun shines almost all of the time. And lets face it, there's not a whole lot of places that you can get up in the morning, work your garden, bicycle to work at a high paying job from your home, get off of work and drive 15 minutes to do a quick climb and Rappell on a 300 foot sheer rock cliff, then go to a play at the local theatre followed by fine dining at local restaurants. You could also toss in some hang gliding, skydiving, and water skiing if you wished, or jogging or bicyling on a 12,000 foot high mountain trail. And all in the atmosphere of a small town in the west. And it just gets better from there.

Of course, I'm old. Younger people might prefer the excitement of big cities more, which leads to Denver or Colorado Springs.

[sweetliberty]

"Kansas or Arkansas"

Knasas? What, pray tell, could Kansas possibly have to offer, at least to a sighted person? And Arkansas, well, that's the choice I made, but the corruption in politics here and the depressed economy have gotten me rethinking the wisdom of the move. The climate here though, is as near perfect as anywhere I can imagine if you like 4 real seasons.

[ysoitanly]

"What is south Idaho like...winters...? "

trust me - NO JOBS. Idaho was my first choice, but you have to live, too! It's the most beautiful place if you can afford it by not working.

[honeygrl]

" I'm really just an ordinary guy with lots of faults (ask the ex-wife) and just kinda a schmo."

blah blah blah... :)

[mrtysmm]

Pardon my ignorance...but...what is a free state project?

[honeygrl]

Georgia has jobs if you don't mind working in a grocery store.

[w_over_w]

My Aunt is trying to sell her home (on 10 acres) in Kerrville, TX (about 35 miles west of San Antonio) so she can move to . . . are you ready? Oakland (long story). Her home is awesome (4000+ sq. ft. Ranch style) and very reasonable. If my wife and I could match our respective careers we would move, but this Texan and his native Kalif. Wife is going to stay and fight the bastards that are destroying this great state. Still, I envy you . . . a little. If this sounds like your cup of "Texas Tea" I'll give you the name of her realtor.

[Dog Gone]

Can an obviously legally insane person sell a house?