[sweetliberty]

"But the point is it's an invasion of outside liberal influence, IMO, certainly not the church members themselves or even the "legitimate" heirarchy."

Be that as it may, they cannot do it without the cooperation of the church hierarchy, and that requires working from the INSIDE. I find it more than a little disturbing that the MAJORITY of the bishops voted FOR this abomination.

[evad]

Be that as it may, they cannot do it without the cooperation of the church hierarchy, and that requires working from the INSIDE. I find it more than a little disturbing that the MAJORITY of the bishops voted FOR this abomination.

I couldn't agree more.

My original reply to this thread was to direct attention to a more specific reason for this problem rather than the concept that it is "satanic" or "socialistic" or any other cause than liberalism. In many cases the modern day liberal (40 or 50 years) has met with great success with his agenda. Homosexual agenda, abortion on demand, environmental terrorism, governmental control and apparently, the infecting of the Episcopal and Catholic church at the highest levels.