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Parents mourn children killed during protests
Houston Chronicle ^ | August 16, 2003 | JANETTE RODRIGUES

Posted on 08/16/2003 12:28:29 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife

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To: singletrack
"Rachel admitted to me that she was frightened, but she wanted to do it," said Craig Corrie, 56, as he and his wife toured an art exhibit. "She needed to do it."

She was looking for direction and she got nothing from her parents.

21 posted on 08/16/2003 2:27:50 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Next they you know they'll sue gravity if they are injured jumping off a cliff.Actions/reactions.Choices/responsibility.Cause/effect.I am amazed no one seems to get it in this group!
22 posted on 08/16/2003 2:33:22 AM PDT by MEG33
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To: MEG33
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23 posted on 08/16/2003 2:39:19 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: All
A student's essay: Socialism: A Broader Explanation***Though I do believe in regulation of private industries (with such laws as minimum wage and safe working conditions), I also believe that some industries should be publicly owned (I will delve into detail concerning Regulation versus Ownership later). Though regulation does provide an artificial standard for business to meet, the best standard is provided by companies owned by the public with the specific intention of serving the public -- public industry will serve the worker by providing fair wages, good hours, and safe working conditions for honest work; public industry will serve the community and the consumer by providing high quality goods at a low, affordable price. Regulation and public ownership of some capital of most industries is my idea of Socialism, as well as having public businesses providing beyond the requirements of business regulation, and therefore providing natural competition to private enterprise. As to the question of how laws are passed and decisions are made, this is not something I can wholly answer here, though I would lean towards Direct Democracy (Anarchism).

The Plight of the Workers

Is Socialism possible? Is it needed? Is it desirable? These are questions that can only be answered with brute, hard facts. The following is a list of facts concerning the rich, the poor, and everyone concerned...

In 1974, the Capitalist class (per household) was making over $125,000 anually (in 1966 dollars); in 1987, the Capitalist class (per household) was making over $160,000 anually (in 1966 dollars); and in 1995, the Capitalist class (per household) was making over $200,000 anually (1966 dollars). However, from 1966 to 1995, the middle class have been making little over $25,000 anually (1966 dollars), and from 1966 to 1995, the poor class have been making little over $8,000 anually (1966 dollars) and that figure has remained virtually unchanged for that time period. From 1966 to 1995, the Capitalist class had an increase in over $75,000 (1966 dollars) yet the other classes have not been getting an increase of income at all. [Source: U.S. Census Bureau, historical income and poverty data.] ***

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24 posted on 08/16/2003 2:47:04 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Rachel's parents love to portray her as an innocent, idealistic young woman who became an activist on her own. They deliberately hide the fact that they have been activists, too.

Parents Seek Probe in Activist's Death, Seattle Times ^ | 03-19-03 | florangela davila

Craig and Cindy Corrie spent yesterday in Washington, D.C., demanding lawmakers begin a U.S.-led investigation into the death of their youngest daughter, Rachel. It's a shift for them to take up a cause, Craig Corrie said. It was Rachel who was always so socially and politically conscious. She was the family's activist.

It's not a shift for Rachel's parents to take up a cause, as you can see from an article that came out at about the time of her death... Israel Military Kills Peace Activist
25 posted on 08/16/2003 2:50:08 AM PDT by syriacus (Chuck Schumer belongs to a group which excudes women from full membership)
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The punch line from the LINK in the Post above.

*** Furthermore, life in a Communist nation with equal pay would far surpass life in a Capitalist nation with innovation. At least a Communist nation would offer food, water, clothing, and other necessities without too much work. In a Capitalist nation, we work 12 hours a day building expensive cars, so at the end of the day we can sleep in the gutter with only pennies of pay. How can any nation be so ignorant to boast of technological accomplishment when millions upon millions of its people are homeless and starving?

A Free Society

Marx is notable for observing the struggle throughout history of those without property. The Proletariat were slaves of the Romans, as Africans were slaves of Americans, so workers today too are under the yolk of brutal, tormenting labor. We are not driven by an intense hate of working. Rather, we are driven by the conditions that we have been living in: poor wage, merciless overseers, and long hours. With the vicious flog of commerce whipping at our backs, society and the economy became something to benefit the rich and powerful. Not providing us the fruits of our labor, the Capitalist class has become the most cruel and malicious class of beings. Disempowered and desensitized, filled with nothing but an unending angst about the world, there is no question why we have protests, riots, or anti-Capitalist Direct Action. We will continue to refuse and resist, our will being fueled by the growing injustice of Capitalism, the colossal brutality of a system that has destroyed so much.***

26 posted on 08/16/2003 2:53:12 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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Correction: The punch line from the LINK in Post #24.
27 posted on 08/16/2003 2:54:28 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: syriacus
Intercommunity Peace and Justice Center LINKS to

PARENTING for Peace and Justice which LINKS to

Building a Culture of Peace Begins with Children

28 posted on 08/16/2003 3:06:52 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
History seems to not be in the author's course of study.
29 posted on 08/16/2003 3:07:17 AM PDT by MEG33
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What's missing is teaching youth to think for themselves as they graduate out of adolescent group think.
30 posted on 08/16/2003 3:11:43 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
the growing injustice of Capitalism, the colossal brutality of a system that has destroyed so much.

Oh boy. What's worse? Destroying a few trees and hydrocarbons? Or murdering hundreds of millions of people. Clearly that author misses the trees more. Perhaps his mindset is that "workers grow back".

31 posted on 08/16/2003 4:23:12 AM PDT by Lil'freeper
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
she probably had a professor like one of these three Three professors from hell
32 posted on 08/16/2003 4:42:25 AM PDT by freepatriot32 (Heaven is weary, of the hollow words Which States and Kingdoms utter when they talk of justice)
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To: inkling
That isn't exactly a peaceful look is it?
33 posted on 08/16/2003 4:45:52 AM PDT by Netizen
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Oh hell, just chlorine for the gene pool. No big loss.
34 posted on 08/16/2003 4:49:56 AM PDT by RightOnline
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To: freepatriot32
I enjoyed reading your article. I think we all can identify with it.
35 posted on 08/16/2003 5:07:36 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Lil'freeper
Clearly that author misses the trees more. Perhaps his mindset is that "workers grow back".

I can't imagine they do think. Most of them are just a bunch of uneducated dupes taken in by a charismatic line.

36 posted on 08/16/2003 5:09:59 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
California authorities concluded there wasn't enough evidence to file charges against the logger. They found that while he had threatened the protesters, he wasn't aware that Chain was in the path of his falling tree.

Oops

37 posted on 08/16/2003 5:10:20 AM PDT by wattsmag2
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To: RightOnline
Public schools are churning out more where they came from.
38 posted on 08/16/2003 5:10:42 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: McGavin999
If only...if only.... poor Rachel hadn't burned that flag, "Don't Tread on Me"
39 posted on 08/16/2003 5:17:38 AM PDT by 8mmMauser
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
"in hopes of gathering enough grass-roots and political support to pressure the Bush administration into conducting an independent investigation into her death."

To investigate what? She did something stupid and lost her life as a result. It was an accident and a tragic loss for her parents, but what is an investigation going to uncover? That their daughter was an idiot? Perhaps I'm missing some vital piece of information here.

40 posted on 08/16/2003 5:19:34 AM PDT by sweetliberty ("Having the right to do a thing is not at all the same thing as being right in doing it.")
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