[Laura Schlessinger] Dr. Laura Renounces Jewish Orthodoxy

religionnewsblog.com ^ | 08/13/2003 | LISA KEYS

[exodus]

You are no Christian if you don't accept who Jesus said he was: "I and the Father are one." Repent and believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and you shall be saved exodus.
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I don't believe that Jesus and God are the same person.

I am saved regardless of that unimportant detail. I've accepted God into my life. That, and loving my neighbors as I love myself, is all that is required.

[exodus]

To: veronica
Incomplete is a good word. Christianity is the completion of Judaism. That's why it's called the Leap of Faith. We have taken that next step.
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Judism is a complete religion. Jews are the chosen people of God. That was true in Jesus's time, and it's still true today. It has not changed.

[SerpentDove]

>>How sad that she chooses to reject her religion by the faxes her fans and listeners send her. It would seem her committment--or lack thereof--to Judaism is predicated on her fan base.<<

She said nothing of the kind. She said plainly that her sincere practice of Judaism din't fulfill a need she had. She was quite clear about that.

You are on dangerous ground when you begin passing judgment on someone's deeply-held spiritual convictions.

[SerpentDove]

I agree. A tone of "grace" would be just what she needs.

I had to quit listening to her, because every time I did, I walked away depressed by what a rotten person I am.

There's a difference between conviction and condemnation.

;-)

[Yeti]

Frankly I have no idea what the answer is and I'm hoping Dr. Laura will tell us that it's actually okay to own Canadians.

I had a couple Canadians, but I traded them for a bass guitar and a scanner. They make good pets -- just keep 'em out of the sun and don't let 'em get drunk.

[SerpentDove]

Jesus, before His death and resurrection:

John 14: Let not your heart be troubled: believe in God, believe also in me.

In my Father's house are many mansions; if it were not so, I would have told you; for I go to prepare a place for you.

And if I go and prepare a place for you, I come again, and will receive you unto myself; that where I am, there ye may be also.

And whither I go, ye know the way.

Thomas saith unto him, Lord, we know not whither thou goest; how know we the way?

Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, and the truth, and the life: no one cometh unto the Father, but by me.

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[Ann Archy]

You are still waiting for your Messiah, but how will you recognize him??? You have no record of linage from David.

Jews were the chosen people....that's the people God sent his only SON, Jesus to....to tell them the Good News of the Kingdom of heaven. "No one comes to ME unless the FATHER sends them."

Have you ever thought about the early Christians??? 10 out of the 11 apostles were martyred?? Beheaded....Crucified upside down...etc. Do you think these people followed Christ because it was EASY? They all saw it as the Prophets words coming to fulfillment...

[SerpentDove]

>>Her conversion sounds more like a career move than a deeply-felt religious experience. <<

Your posts on this thread have been brash, pompous, hateful and arrogant.

Never mind that you have no business presuming you can judge the spiritual condition of someone else. Have you considered common etiquette? It might really suit you.

[rmlew]

Lilith magamize is a feminist attack on Judaism.

[lonevoice]

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[rwfromkansas]

uninportant detail?

If you don't believe who Jesus says He is clearly in Scripture, how can you be saved?

It sure as heck isn't an unimportant detail.

If Jesus was just the Son, it takes a lot away from what is so amazing about the Cross and you don't fully understand the depth of the gospel.

Hey, you seem like a good person and I don't want to harp on this....but you need to think it over. I hope you have a good night and great Sunday.

[Salman]

Why the venom?

I don't understand your question, Salman.

If you meant no venom, I apologize. We Jews do tend to be (understandably) touchy.

[Daveinyork]

(You said that you Flinch when your brother mentions Jesus....Why do you do that...I think it's very telling...and I think you know why you do it....yu will come to grips with it someday....God Willing)

Not to get into a theological argument, which will probably happen, now, but the Bible says our G-d is one. I would flinch in same way if he praised Zeus.

If there was a Jesus, he was here to lead the gentiles to Judaism, and vice versa.

[veronica]

Incomplete is a good word. Christianity is the completion of Judaism. That's why it's called the Leap of Faith. We have taken that next step.

Judaism is a complete religion, but you are fully entitled to have another belief system if you wish to. As I stated, Jews are not taught to be arrogant about their religion, merely to practice it. That's why we don't seek to convert.

[dennisw]

Even so, a disproportionately large number of librtarians are also atheists......


So true and usually they try and deny this. I will flat out say that legalizing poisons such as heroin, crack and meth is a Godless act. The devil loves to see people shoot up dope and become more open to his imprecations.

[veronica]

If you notice, I have not attacked any poster in this thread, nor did I say one negative word about Christianity, nor did I try and convince anyone that Judaism is for them. All I did was state my opinon of the article, and Dr. Laura, and give my opinion of Islam, when asked. If you don't agree with my opinion fine with me. If you feel compelled to attack me, that is your problem.

Never mind that you have no business presuming you can judge the spiritual condition of someone else.

This article was posted to engender debate. It's about religion. As I stated, I found Dr. Laura to be hypocrital and preachy long before this, I am entitled to my opinon. :)

Don't like it, don't read it.

[Commie Basher]

Jews are the chosen people of God.

An atheist libertarian (who is also part Jewish) told me that Spinoza said that there can be more than one chosen people, and that even if someone is chosen, they might only be chosen for a specific task at a specific period in history. I thought that was an interesting perspective.

[Commie Basher]

Lilith magamize is a feminist attack on Judaism.

BTW, isn't Lilith the first wife of Adam? Where does that come from? I don't think it's in the Bible.

[Commie Basher]

Not to get into a theological argument, which will probably happen, now, but the Bible says our G-d is one. I would flinch in same way if he praised Zeus.

FWIW, the New Agers take the opposite tact. They say that God is one, in that he is in everything, as in "I am God." So if you were to praise Zeus, or yourself, or the sun, you're really praising God, since he's in everything. Pantheism, I think it's called.

[honeygrl]

"And with that, Orthodox Judaism lost its loudest mouthpiece and its most prominent "rabbi," as it were, with the largest American pulpit — with the exception of, perhaps, presidential candidate Joseph Lieberman. "

Poor orthodox jews... They should talk Lieberman into renouncing he faith too just so he's not the only one with camera time trying to speak for them.