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To: wardaddy; Phantom Lord
I haven't decided who my hero is - Phil Hellmuth for cleaning Sam Grizzle out after Sam kept running his mouth, or Phil Ivey for playing the ultimate silent game.
71 posted on 08/15/2003 2:17:46 PM PDT by Chancellor Palpatine ("what if the hokey pokey is really what its all about?" - Jean Paul Sartre)
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To: Chancellor Palpatine
You know Grizzle knocked Phil out last year in a brawl after the game. They both deserve each other. Helmuth whines a lot. Grizzle knows how to rattle him. Ivey is good but young...he has a big future.

I still like Johnny Chan...modesty. I like Devilfish too...he is very sharp.

At that level...they are all incredible masters of calculating odds at every stage. They routinely fold pockets you and I would play. But they also really push hard with the big four pockets...and a fair amount of bluffing. They also really play the blinds...something we novices hardly pay attention to.

I saw Helmuth wax Grizzle a few weeks ago. The funny thing is that an amateur who gets the cards can and does beat these guys. It's not chance that the best make it to the last few tables but it is purely luck on top of that to win it all.....very hard to repeat a World Series win. I think Chan and one other have done that since 1984.
77 posted on 08/15/2003 2:29:07 PM PDT by wardaddy (i couldn't help it)
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To: Chancellor Palpatine
I would vote for Hon Lee.
95 posted on 08/16/2003 5:27:30 AM PDT by Phantom Lord (Distributor of Pain, Your Loss Becomes My Gain)
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