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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Thanks to the rats and Watermelon Jihadists, we have no major new power plants for close to two decades.

When Moonbeam was sworn in, he with a very spooky person on stage with him declared the "Era of Limits!"

That Era of Limits meant that there would be no new power plants built except for those in the process California.

So as California added population, our old power plants became obsolete and inadequate to meet the demands. We started having roving/roming blackouts in 1999 and 2000 before GW was elected.

There have been no new power plants built by Herr Davis the Power Fascist. The only thing that is keeping our lights on is the dumping of water from our lakes at record levels to power the generators below the dams. Of course the mediots don't want to look at this situation.

Also, the Davis recession and driving businesses out of California has helped to keep our lights on. A closed business uses little if any electricity. Also, when people leave the state to go with their moving companies, they don't use any power in California.

4 posted on 08/14/2003 5:07:01 PM PDT by Grampa Dave (Gray Davis = Bill Clinton without the conscience + Al Gore without the charm = Total Recall Time!)
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To: Grampa Dave
"..............Thanks to the rats and Watermelon Jihadists.................."

Amen, brother!

What a golden opportunity for Bush to slam the Demon-cratic leftist-greenie-ELF-envirowacko-obstructionists who think we are going to "conserve our way out of an energy crisis".

6 posted on 08/14/2003 5:13:09 PM PDT by DoctorMichael (TAG! You're it!)
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To: Grampa Dave
This could happen tomorrow in California or anywhere on the western grid. It becomes increasingly likely every day.

We want power and we want it cheap. And we don't want a power plant built within 50 miles of where any of us live, and in the case of California, not even in Mexico.

7 posted on 08/14/2003 5:17:04 PM PDT by Dog Gone
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To: Grampa Dave
California needs new power plants because their normal demand is operating too close to their peak production capability. But even if large new plants were already online it would provide very little protection against the type of event that blacked out the Northeast today.

The power grid is protected by a Protective Relay System that is designed using a Short Circuit Analysis of the grid and all of its components. The Power Grid has become so large and complex that the Short Circuit Analysis modeling software cannot accurately model all of the possible scenarios that can bring the grid down. Thus the system has potential failure scenarios built into the Protective Relay System.

All it takes is the failure of one protective relay to shut down large sections of the grid. The only real solution is to distribute the generation capabilities over a very large number of small units. Almost a house by house, building by building solution. That will require a major modification to our existing infrastructure. Expect to see it completed within the next 20 years but until that time we will be vulnerable to the type of event that the N.E. experienced today.
12 posted on 08/14/2003 6:15:31 PM PDT by FreeLibertarian (You live and learn. Or you don't live long.)
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