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Bush's Terminator [fascinating dish on Ahhnold & Riordan]
OpinionJournal.com ^ | 14 August 2003 | Robert Novak

Posted on 08/14/2003 6:25:40 AM PDT by RightOnTheLeftCoast

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To: RightOnTheLeftCoast
According to Pete Wilson, the after school program to date has cost the State of California NOTHING!!!! It was intentionally written to pay for the programs only if the funds were in place to do so. Since the budget is in deficit, there has been no money spent on the programs.

I think this is Arnold's viewpoint. Spend on kids and education, but do so in a climate where tax money can be raised- in a healthy economy. I think Arnold will surprise his critics when the details of his plans come out.

21 posted on 08/14/2003 7:44:46 AM PDT by SoCal Pubbie
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To: OldFriend
California 2003 is NO California 1970s. Those days are gone forever.

The severe reduction of the military contractor/military base infrastructure in California, the only true shrinkage of federal spending, eliminated the heart of the California Republican Party.

22 posted on 08/14/2003 7:46:50 AM PDT by TexasNative2000 (Drove my Ford to the fjord, but the fjord was dry. . . . .)
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To: RightOnTheLeftCoast
Well, you said you hope to be proven wrong when Arnold comes out with his positions. I hope that if you ARE proven wrong, you will admit it. Somehow, I tend to doubt it. As far as I'm concerned, the people helping to elect Bustamonte rather than Arnold are the real RINOs and the read "you people".
23 posted on 08/14/2003 7:52:32 AM PDT by Wait4Truth (God Bless our President!)
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To: brbethke
But this is California, the Granola State, where being opposed by conservative Republicans is a bonafide virtue! Has anyone considered that the comments by Simon et al may be a carefully crafted diversionary tactic to fool the mushy middle into voting for Arnold, on the grounds that he's not a "real" Republican?

I've been wondering about this the last day or two. I don't know that it's a deliberate plan, but it might play out that way.

I had expected Simon, at least, and perhaps McClintock, to poll higher than they have been. Admittedly it is still early, but in a lot of the polls they are both in single digits, and neither of them has gone much over 10% in any poll, While Schwarzenegger has been running 25-45%, and Bustamante 15-25%. So far -- and I repeat, it is still very early, and we're not really sure what polling data means in this weird sort of election -- it doesn't look like Simon and McClintock are drawing enough support to threatening Schwarzenegger's lead -- and in fact, attacks from candidates perceived by moderate independents and Democrats to be on the far right might actually help Schwarzenegger. But we'll have to wait and see.

24 posted on 08/14/2003 7:54:42 AM PDT by Brandon
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To: OldFriend
Please don't misunderstand me. I also consider Novak a troublemaker! I was just commenting on the fact that along with his troublemaking, he sees what is being done to Arnold. Perhaps I should not have addressed my post to you. Accept my apologies, please.
25 posted on 08/14/2003 7:55:39 AM PDT by Wait4Truth (God Bless our President!)
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To: B Knotts
Here is a news story of Your CONSERVATIVE Deukmejian helping to support baby killers.
REGION -- Former Governor George Deukmejian has agreed to 
be the honorary chairman of the committee to support Chief 
Justice Ronald George's re-election campaign. 

George, one of four Supreme Court justices on the November 
ballot, is facing opposition from abortion foes over his 
opinion striking down a law requiring teenagers to obtain 
the consent of a parent or judge for an abortion. 

The California ProLife Council has also challenged Justice 
Ming Chin, who is up for re-election and who joined in 
George's opinion last August. 


A former prosecutor, George has been chief justice of the
court since May 1996 and is regarded as a conservative on 
criminal matters and a moderate on civil issues. 


Court observers say George has made a smart move early in 
the campaign by persuading Deukmejian, one of the state's 
most prominent conservatives, to head the re- election. 
effort. 

What part of support for unborn babby killers do you think is most conservative. He is only considered a conservative in California. California where Joseph Stalin is considered a right wing nut.

26 posted on 08/14/2003 7:59:36 AM PDT by Common Tator
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To: RightOnTheLeftCoast
RightOnTheLeftCoast,

Trust your instincts.

How'd Novak...get ahold of this dish?

That's a good question.

Ahhnie's gonna have to learn to keep his yap shut, even to "associates". He's got a mole.

No, you were right the first time. I'm no Ahrnold fan, particuarly after the Buffet Econ Advisor announcement yesterday, look at my tagline, but this is bunk. I don't know how to say this without being insulting, but Bob Novak simply lies. There's no other way to say it, the guy simply makes things up out of thin air. How the Chicago paper that employs him puts up with all his baseless, completely wrong "rumors" is beyond me. At least Peter Gammons is right OCASSIONALLY. Who would tell this arrogant old Paleocon anything anyways? I mean, all he does is gossip so you know its going to get leaked.

At least they ran corrections on Jason Blair's stories.

27 posted on 08/14/2003 8:03:49 AM PDT by PeoplesRep_of_LA (Governor McClintock on October 7, 2003!)
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To: RightOnTheLeftCoast
Sorry, I take that back, this doesn't have nearly the normal amount of "sources" and "rumors" as most Novak collumns. I spoke too soon. My fault! I actually agree with alot of what he is saying, which dovetails nicely into Bush's support of all 3 candidates yesterday.
28 posted on 08/14/2003 8:06:38 AM PDT by PeoplesRep_of_LA (Governor McClintock on October 7, 2003!)
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To: OldFriend
Anyone who has seen Riordan in recent days could see that for themselves and it was hardly necessary for Novak to carry tales out of the Arnold camp.

Right. I'm not in any camp and I've been hearing this stuff about Riordan for more than a year.

I also think these pocket-edition Machiavellis are worthless. Certainly there's manoevering and calculation but Bush might actually believe in Arnold when he praises him.

29 posted on 08/14/2003 8:45:53 AM PDT by liberallarry
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To: PeoplesRep_of_LA
" particuarly after the Buffet Econ Advisor announcement yesterday, look at my tagline,"

Duel of the taglines....my tag line beats yours.

In any case the Buffett anouncement was a stroke of genius...STRATEGERY even.

It diverts the dems who were just about to dump on Arnie....throws them off focus.

Now it's all about how Buffett will save CA millions in bond fees.....and who was resposnsible for this mess...dems in general and davis in particular.

31 posted on 08/14/2003 9:22:49 AM PDT by spokeshave (A vote for Tom McClintock, Bill Simon or Peter Ueberroth is a vote for Cruz Bustamante)
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To: spokeshave
my tag line beats yours.

Only in your mind.

In any case the Buffett anouncement was a stroke of genius...STRATEGERY even.

Wow, you're getting really desperate to put a happy face on this clear indication of a total busting of the "fiscal conservative" mythology.

It diverts the dems who were just about to dump on Arnie....throws them off focus.

Just like when Bush runs to the middle, we see the press appreciate that and ease off the gas. That's because they respect when their issues are finally implemented by a Republican. /sarcasm off.

Now it's all about how Buffett will save CA millions in bond fees.....and who was resposnsible for this mess...dems in general and davis in particular.

Wow are you going to be surprised when the media absolulely PLASTERS Ahnuld Buffet's name when those loans come due. I mean, how many times on the news do you hear that the reason for the recall is that "Davis turned a $12 surplus into a -$38.2 deficit, increasing spending from $67 to $100 billion, and lied during the campaign that the deficit was around $10 bil." I mean, that is the CENTRAL issue right now, but all you hear about is the "circus" timepoint. Take off your rose colored glasses!

You see, they are loans-we aren't the Fed-THEY MUST BE PAID. Therefore, this slight of hand in the budget, similar to Clinton's given to Bush, will eventually collapse, and they will be due. Unless the next Gov quickly and significantly cuts spending, which won't happen with Buffet, we will either be bankrupt...or we will have Reasonable Tax Increases.

Those by the way will push herds of businesses out of Coliforniya. I don't wanna be in the room when you finally figure this out after its too late.

32 posted on 08/14/2003 9:43:02 AM PDT by PeoplesRep_of_LA (Governor McClintock on October 7, 2003!)
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To: Common Tator
OK...so maybe he bailed on conservatism in his latter years. But when he was governor, he was pretty much a mainstread, pro-life conservative.

All I was trying to do was to point out the inaccuracy of Novak's ill-informed commentary.

33 posted on 08/14/2003 9:52:07 AM PDT by B Knotts
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34 posted on 08/14/2003 3:57:45 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (All we need from a Governor is a VETO PEN!!!)
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