[Virginia-American]

When I'm using the defective vitamin C gene as an example of shared errors implying shared ancestry, I've often posted that the hypothesized designer must have had lousy quality control, and I've never been accused of religion-bashing.

If ID is ever considered science, then theories about the designer would be in order. What do we have so far: 1) lousy quality control, and 2) likes to mimic standard mutation/natural selection.

[PatrickHenry]

What do we have so far: 1) lousy quality control, and 2) likes to mimic standard mutation/natural selection.

If you can pad that into a textbook, maybe you can con some school board into buying it. It ain't science, but hey, it's a living!

[Aric2000]

What is amazing to me, is that they consider ID a scientific theory, but when the designer is made fun of, they tell us that we are religion bashing.

Just amazing, it's either a scientific theory or it's a religious belief, it CANNOT be both, so which is it?

Anyway, yes, the design is rather sloppy, the back is not exactly well suited to standing on 2 legs, we can't manufacture Vitamin C, We have a tailbone that is not much good for anything, etc, etc.

So either the designer was sloppy, drunk or was playing around in the lab, or evolution, which in fact, this is what it looks like, actually took place.

So, we have 2 choices, the designer was a crappy designer, or evolution did excellent with what it had to work with.

[Nataku X]

Right. If one said that God/Big-D Designer was drunk, then he would be in definite violation of the agreement.

But, if you take "belief" to mean every little belief on the planet, including the fact that I believe that my grocery's generic pepperoni tastes better than the brand name pepperoni, then there is potentially nothing that we can post without being belittling to someone's beliefs.

From the context of the draft thread by what A-G was judging on what was allowed and what wasn't (Darwood, being permitted, etc.), I take that the only "absolute" about section 5 is to mean (1) personal attacks are not allowed, and (2) attacks on religious beliefs definitely are a no-no too.

My apologies if I am wrong.