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To: BMCDA
http://www.desy.de/pub/www/projects/Physics/ParticleAndNuclear/casimir.html

In this theory you still have something. You have particles. You have photons. You have "uncharged plates" You don't have "nothing".
1,016 posted on 08/18/2003 3:59:47 PM PDT by DittoJed2
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To: DittoJed2
In this theory you still have something. You have particles. You have photons. You have "uncharged plates" You don't have "nothing".

Poster-boy example for a "How Not To Spin the Casimir Effect" education campaign.

The plates are in a "vacuum" as we normally consider it. In the skinny volume between the plates there is less pressure than in the "vacuum" surrounding the plates. Attractive forces between the plates can be eliminated. Thus, the "vacuum" wasn't empty.

Your attempted rebuttal simply misses the point. It's like those "You still have a designer" rebuttals to any scientific experiment conducted in a lab by a human.

1,018 posted on 08/18/2003 4:09:52 PM PDT by VadeRetro
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To: DittoJed2; Physicist
Uh.. wait: You use those plates to measure the effect.
However, you cannot say that those fluctuations are caused in any meaningful way.
1,027 posted on 08/18/2003 4:26:20 PM PDT by BMCDA
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