New Dinosaur Species Found in India

AP ^ | August 13, 2003 | RAMOLA TALWAR BADAM

[PatrickHenry]

This reminds me of the "PC police" who raise hell about how something is offensive to some minority they're not a part of, and later it's discovered that the minority didn't have any problem with it (e.g. the high school sports teams with "Indian" names that the Native Americans didn't mind).

Brings back memories of the thread about the professor who hurt the feelings of a creationist student by not giving him a letter of recommendation. In the minds of some, science is supposed to be all about our feelings.

[Ichneumon]

In other words they consdired everyone else a 2nd class citizen and themselves above any rules.

Utter nonsense.

The "rules" are that people who have signed onto the agreement will treat each other according to the agreement. We are hardly "above" those rules, we are bound by them because we entered into them voluntarily.

But by the same token, we are under no obligation to listen to whining from non-signers about whether you think we're following the agreement well enough for your tastes. You chose not to participate, so you don't get to play "agreement cop". It doesn't concern you.

It's like a signed contract between Company A and company B. You don't get to run in off the street and start accusing either company of not meeting its contractual obligations or nitpicking the language of the contract. If either company has an issue, *they* can raise it with the other company or take it to arbitration. But if you try to butt in, you're just being a meddling busybody.

That's not being a "second class citizen". But if that somehow makes you feel like an outsider, by all means agree to it (again) and let's see how well *you* do at following the same rules as the rest of us who have agreed -- or if you can't, stop bitching at those of us who are at least still trying.

[gore3000]

The "rules" are

Nonsense, the only rule being practiced is utter hypocrisy. The agreement was to treat everybody with respect and stop the insults. Instead it is being used to treat nobody with respect and insult whoever they please under the guise of civility!

[gore3000]

Brings back memories of the thread about the professor who hurt the feelings of a creationist student by not giving him a letter of recommendation.

It was not about hurt feelings, it was about an atheist insisting that someone give up their religious beliefs for the sake of a recommendation. He was doing the devil's work so that is why you approve of his actions.

[gore3000]

Yeah, yeah, yeah... Despite all the pious excuses I've seen so far, it looks to me as if all of the "refuseniks" are primarily driven by a desire to be able to nitpick the signers to death while being completely immune from such criticism themselves.

You agreed to not bash Christians the following shows extreme bad faith:

If there were a designer, he would have had to have been drunk.

Further, it is an attempt to disrupt a thread by starting a religious food fight, something against the prime directive of civility. Your behavior is totally dishonest and you have broken your promise.

[gore3000]

NO, I got a freepmail from someone who I respect, who is NOT a hypcrite, who does NOT let one poster get away with hell, and then jump another for posting a joke.

I am surprised you did not post it. Heck you have insisted that if it serves your purposes it is okay to post private communications. Like with the commies, with you anything is okay if it serves the cause.

[balrog666]

Need coffee placemarker.

[DittoJed2]

One man postulated the current column, a column which is only theory I might add and has never been observed in nature. Have you studied Mt. St. Helens and the Grand Canyon in detail to see how they were formed? There is no possible way the Colorado river formed the latter, but the former gives clues how a canyon could form very very quickly.

[DittoJed2]

Certain things are open to interpretation, but you have to purely fabricate things such as Jesus is not the way to heaven, and many of the "interpretations" are major stretches from the plain sense of the text.

[balrog666]

One man postulated the current column, a column which is only theory I might add and has never been observed in nature. Have you studied Mt. St. Helens and the Grand Canyon in detail to see how they were formed? There is no possible way the Colorado river formed the latter, but the former gives clues how a canyon could form very very quickly.

Absolutely wrong in so many ways.

Have you never seen the Grand Canyon? It's geology? Read about it? Even schoolchildren do an exercise to determine how long it took to cut it. And it's all easily verified if you want to attempt it.

Oh, and, by the way, Mt. St. Helens canyons are not composed if sedimentary stone, limestone, or granite, they are layers of mud and ash. Again, the facts are all easily verifiable, even by schoolchildren.

[Da_Shrimp]

but the former gives clues how a canyon could form very very quickly.

The channels at Mount St Helens are cut through unconsolidated ash. How can this be compared to the situation at the Grand Canyon?

[StolarStorm]

The facts are irrelevant when one's faith is so weak that it cannot survive truth.

[DittoJed2]

Have you never seen the Grand Canyon? It's geology? Read about it? Even schoolchildren do an exercise to determine how long it took to cut it. And it's all easily verified if you want to attempt it.


Have you ever bothered to look at any other evidence other than what your evolution buddies present you? I would hasten to say, no. Have you ever seen a river flow uphill 3,000 feet? That river did not cut that canyon. It was formed rather rapidly at the flood.
http://answersingenesis.org/home/area/magazines/docs/v15n1_grandcanyon.asp

Oh, and, by the way, Mt. St. Helens canyons are not composed if sedimentary stone, limestone, or granite, they are layers of mud and ash. Again, the facts are all easily verifiable, even by schoolchildren.

Rather a schoolchild willing to learn than one WILLFULLY ignorant. I doubt very seriously that you have ever considered flood geology, or studied Mt. St. Helens eruption and the geology of that catastrophy. For those who care to learn, there are many articles online and elsewhere. Here is one of them: http://www.icr.org/pubs/imp/imp-157.htm

[DittoJed2]

Grand Canyon was rapidly formed when a dam broke. That little River did not carve that great big canyon. If you have ever seen flooding, it can do a lot of damage rather rapidly.

[DittoJed2]

How is granite formed? By the cooling of magma. What is going to happen to the ash and lava flows of M.S.H. in a few hundred years? How about the trees that are in Spirit Lake? There are upright petrified trees all over the world that cut straight through the sacred geological column. If that column formed over millions and millions of years, the tree would have rotted and turned to dust. These trees are perfectly preserved. Mt. St. Helens shows how this likely happened.

[DittoJed2]

I can agree with that. Unfortunately, most evolutionist's faith is very weak in that is is BLIND.

[StolarStorm]

I have no idea whether evolution caused the man to come about. I do know two things though, 1. The process of natural selection does occur (bacterial resistence duh..) 2. It is absurd to think the earth is 6000 years old.
Creationists would gain more converts if they could get past those two items.

[goodseedhomeschool (returned)]

If I may interject here. How do you KNOW how old the earth is? If you leave out the geologic column theory of age, could you honestly say you KNOW the earth is one age or another?

[StolarStorm]

because I can read and I haven't been brain washed.

[goodseedhomeschool (returned)]

If I may further expound here. Natural selection meaning "naturally selected" to survive or become extinct is a fact. Our environment is ever changing and with those changes come other changes. I doubt that creationists deny that fact.
It is my understanding that the very root of the evolution theory begins with an explanation, any explanation of origins as long a God or a special creator is not in the picture. A Godless creation if you will.