[Dane]

So, if you want Dean, then keep it up with the flip responses to people with Masters Degrees that have followed all the rules and got hammered with very little warning

What flip resopnses? It called economics. A grocery chain in my area has introduced self-serve checkout. The way it is set up, one checker now does the job four used to, thus effectively outsourcing 3 checker jobs.

Should this practice, according to you, be banned?

[lelio]

It called economics

So we have nothing to be worried about with everything being produced in communist China and a large majority of IT jobs in India? R&D moving to Tiawan and Singapore? Its all just economics that jobs are flying out of the country?

[RinaseaofDs]

You have your economic terms crossed. You describe a productivity improvement of three checkers. You made them obsolete with the application of technology, you didn't send the checker work to Nova Scotia. Welding made riveting obsolete. Steam power put sail makers out of work.

With IT outsourcing, you haven't made anything obsolete. The phone bills, a record of every call you've ever made to anybody, is in real life as we speak for every phone company in the US, handled by an Israeli company that used to be called Comverse Infosys. Your bank statements, India or Pakistan. I wonder where your medical records are being digitized? Russia maybe? Ever used a customer support line call centered in India? "Can I speak to somebody that knows something about rebuidling the IP stack?" "Sorry to be telling you, sir, but there is only me."

'Good, you deserve Dean' was this guy's answer to the original post. That's a flip response, and it is going to earn you Dean if that's the sum total of what you have to tell intelligent, right leaning, Master's Degree holding, displaced IT workers.

This kind of outsourcing allows countries that aren't exactly allies to be exposed to either very sensitive information, or outright trade secrets in the case of software application development and silicon technology.

The work is both sensitive and strategic. It isn't that the work can now be handled by your epsilon semi-moron either. Outsourcing is an improvement in marginal costs in short term at the expense of having native talent and trained labor in the long term.

Here's another problem with it. Let's assume the economy recovers, and you really need software developers, now. Those that were insane enough to get degrees in it despite the outsourcing trend are going to ask the following question: 'Ever outsource key aspects of your development to another country?'

What do you say to that? If you say yes, the guy is either going to say, "Fine, you are going to make it very worth my while in the short term." or they will say "Bye now."

What seemed like a golden boy idea for the CIO today is going to end up hanging the kevorka curse around the neck of your company for attracting key talent for the next twenty years.

[Doohickey]

Comparing entry level non-skilled jobs to jobs that require skill and continuous education is flip. There is no shortage of other entry level jobs that these poor, displaced grocery checkers can get.

There are signs up all over town here for similar work, unlike technology and skilled service jobs.

[William Terrell]

Do the workers in India pay American taxes? Is the money they make spent in America? Oh, they may spend some on an American baubble or two, but how about rent, groceries, services, utilities and most of the things they use?

What sort of job do you work right now, Dane?

[GOP_1900AD]

It's called Economism. And it is in bold afront to true Rightist thought. Someday, after we get through the inevitable disasters, Economists who are still alive will rot in Rigthist jails.