U.S. Offshore Outsourcing Leads to Structural Changes and Big Impact

cio.com ^ | August 13, 2003 | Diane Morello

[Those_Crazy_Liberals]

"I stand ready to accept your apology for implying that I hate blacks and/or muslims."

The shoe fits you well. Wear it. You'll get nothing from me but a glare of contempt and no respect. You've earned nothing.

[the gillman@blacklagoon.com]

Hope you're wearing comfy shoes. You'll stand there a long time waiting for Cazy Lib to admit anything.

More likely he'll claim you're changing the subject from out-sourcing to out-raging.

[Those_Crazy_Liberals]

"Pretty much everybody respects the logic of MHKING."

That's a profound statment that reflects poorly on what small intelect you may possess.

[mhking]

That's a profound statment that reflects poorly on what small intelect you may possess.

Actually you have demonstrated your intellect, or lack of it, here in significant enough form to show where you come from.

You have ducked, dodged, insulted, insinuated and otherwise acted like a complete moron here today.

I pity you and whoever has to come in personal contact with you on a daily basis.

[superloser]

As for the rest of your comments there are on point and factual.

Thanks.

[ChromeDome]

Where do I sign up?

-ChromeDome

[mhking]

Pretty much everybody respects the logic of MHKING.

Unlike you, he is also a gentleman.

I stand humbled by you, sir. Thanks...

[the gillman@blacklagoon.com]

...That's a profound statment that reflects poorly on what small intelect you may possess...

Good one, that doesn't make any sense at all.
First, run a search on mhking. Read through some of the comments and see how well respected and liked he is.

Then, do a search on yourself. Read some of the comments and see how thoroughly despised you are.

My small intellect gets me through just fine. Don't need much, though since I've been retired for years now.
So don't worry about me.

You, on the other hand, had better call the nurse and get yourself another dose of thorazine.

[the gillman@blacklagoon.com]

No way.

I'm mostly a trouble maker and often a bombthrower.
You are a good man.

[Arthalion]

Just one more article that will be another nail in GWB’s coffin in 2004. As a hardcore conservative and IT professional, I’m not too happy and somewhat reluctant to pull the level for GWB, and I’m not alone.

No, you're not. I sent a letter to the White House, the RNC, and several prominent Republican congressmen and state reps about a month ago explaining that I will not vote for ANY politician from here on out unless they begin opposing the offshoring of American jobs. And I meant it!

The American middle class is at war, a war to preserve our lifestyles, our economic stability, and to protect our families from financial ruin brought about by third-world nations using their fledgeling economies and valueless currencies to undercut our wages. Politicians are supposed to SERVE us and represent OUR interests in government...not the interests of some foreign lobbiest looking to put 100,000 Americans out of work. Until politicians recognize thier responsibilities and begin voting accordingly, I refuse to give them my vote.

[William Terrell]

Everybody's got a cool screen name but me. :o(

And me.

[harpseal]

That's bs. The 100% failure rate figure is impossible.

Actually it all depends upon how one defines sucess or failure.

I recently was caled in to restore a purchasing system for just in time inventory. The new system was offshore outsourced and the costs of excess inventory of components was rising exponentially. The solution a temporary restoration of teh suystem in place before so that the new systemwhich had been installed two year prior was costing monety and this was viewed as a temporary measure. The offshore project was viewed as a sucess even though the employees of teh company could not effectively use it to get the parts they needed to complete themanufacturing job. My services are charged against the purchasing department and the offshore company taht developed the "new" purchasing system was billed as a success. Now clearly if in another two years the companyis still running the restored system taht allows the Purchasing department to use the new system to actually do their job on just in time inventory mayvbe instead of charging my costs against purchasing having to adapt to teh new system someone might just might question teh original decision.

The success rate will be the same or else it's not profitable.

In reality you are correct in Corporate politics this may well be irrelevant until well after teh fact.

By diluting the argument with these silly excuses that the quality is lower, we lose the entire point.

I realize this is slightly off topic from what US trade policy should be but it is sometimes fun to compare war stories.

And the point is that you can get similar quality goods/services at a lower price.While in reality I will dispute this point for sake of argument I will grant it to acces the rest of yuour statement.

And why is that? Because these countries have currency controls (which they won't lift no matter what pressure we brign on them, and which they can't lift because otherwise 2 billion people will languish in poverty, which would mean 2 billion Osama recruits).

First let me say it is not the job of the American government to harm the American economy to lift the two billion who are living in corrupt societies out of poverty. as to your blaming Alqueda recruitment on poverty. This Naom chimsky kline I can not let pass. How poor is Ossama Bin laden? How poor were the 19 hijackers? How poor is Al Zwaheri? This is a load of crap and you know it.

Why are we so expensive? Because we've got too many lawyers jacking up the sue rates so everyone needs tons of insurance thereby pushing us out of business

There are a whole lot of reasons why we are so expensive including unneeded government regulation attorneys fees etc. There are also government subsidies to offshore investing that make this competition to teh american economy artificially less expensive. There is a risk factor in any investment. One expects a lower rate of return from a bond backed by the full faith and credit of the US government than from a bond backed by Goniff Industries that has never had an audited annual statement. this is called the risk premium for investment decisions. In othe rwords for an investment at X rate of return one would expect no risk. If one is say investing in the removal of african currency from Nigeria to an American banke had best get a rate of return annualized out to several million percent minimum ro make the investment a sound decision. OPIC removes the politicla risk from these decisions via taxpayer dollars. Now as to ateh anecdotes about poorer quality Indian work they are anecodtes and not enough to justify decision making but I know what I talked about was true. Maybe a study would be enough to make a generalization.

[Hat-Trick]

Thank you for making my point. With your further evasion, you have now demonstrated that you won't defend the ludicrious comments you make. Don't expect a free pass for accusing me of hating blacks and muslims. I should have expected nothing more from someone whose own profile says "Pro-Gun, Pro-Government". I'm guessing your interpretation of the 2nd Amendment would scare the crap out of most gun owners. Are you sure you're not really a closet liberal? Tell us the truth, you really do have a permanent login at DU, don't you? A Palm Beach county resident? I suggest actually trying to understand and comprehend an issue before opening your mouth and publicly demonstrating your ignorance.

[Those_Crazy_Liberals]

You're really sick.

[Those_Crazy_Liberals]

Get help.

[Doohickey]

Does this mean you've officially graduated from hoodlum to miscreant?

[Mears]

We are being sold out,and GWB is doing nothing,just as he is doing nothing on immigration.

When I mentioned on an earlier post that I was disallusioned with him,I really got flamed by some posters but,surprisingly,I also had a lot that agreed with me.

Who I'll vote for I don't know,but it won't be a Democrat.A lot can happen in a year.

[SouthParkRepublican]

”Oh so people shouldn't have the choice of pumping their own gas.”

I’ll give you this Dane. If nothing else you are consistent! Unfortunately, what you are consistent at is misquoting people and painting them in the light you want to see them.

What I said is “I want to be forever denied the privilege of pumping my own gas!”.

Understand? “I” NOT “YOU”!

You and anyone else who wants to pump their own gas should be entitled to pursue this grand ambition.

[Hat-Trick]

I'll be here whenever you are ready to discuss the issue at hand and defend your statements.

[Scarlet Pimpernel]

Oh, please! Stop! You are calling Lazmatazz shrill? You should listen to yourself. Now that's shrill.