U.S. Offshore Outsourcing Leads to Structural Changes and Big Impact

cio.com ^ | August 13, 2003 | Diane Morello

[AppyPappy]

We could pass a law demanding that Americans pay a certain amount for certain items. That would solve the problem.

[harpseal]

JMO but you refuse to discuss facts or back up your oipinions with facts. You have miserepresented things on thsi column. I have been asked to go easy on you but no more.

People said the same thing about Japan in the 80's. Remember when the Japanese were going to be the new kings of the world, Japan Inc. etc.etc.

Different times different conditions and quatos and tariffs were used to limit the predatory practices of the Japanese.

In short your false analogy is moreintentional misrepresentation on your part.

[Dane]

Since 1979 the bottom half of the American labor force, non college educated regular guys, has been steadily losing economic ground.

Really. I grew up and currently live in the Pittsburgh area. Even thoguh the population is down, the traffic seems to be twice as worse. It must be all those cars.

Retail establishments are blossoming in the suburbs and those Nintendo's seem to fly off the shelf.

Americans in 2003 have a much better life than they did in 1979, IMO, and that came about with a minimum of tariffs.

[B.Bumbleberry]

That's the second time you have called me a liar because you don't agree with my interpretation of history. Must be a real comfort to always be right. You'd think that with such a sure grasp of truth, you would be a little more gracious to those of us more challenged.

[Lazamataz]

So I am to take it from your poor third dodge that you cannot defend your comment, that anyone who disagrees with or criticizes the president is an enemy of the state?

I guess I can understand. I would be ashamed of myself if I wrote what you did, too.

[mhking]

You both seem to express your frustration with our honorable President in the same shrill manner.

Expressing dismay and disgust with the current course of events is worthy of being compared to Hillary™?

Did I miss something of substance here?

[mhking]

You're right. This is going to be a big issue by November 2004. Right now, Bush looks blindsided. He doesn't appear to see it at all.

Yes, this will be an issue for 2004. But I don't think any of the candidates see it yet.

[mhking]

We could pass a law demanding that Americans pay a certain amount for certain items.

It's called a sales tax. And do you truly want to start laying out extra money simply because those of us in the tech sector are seeing jobs dry up?

What happens once the sector comes back? You think that the Feds will have the wherewithal to eliminate any tax once they've started it?

Please. There are alternatives to going back to our collective wallets.

[meatloaf]

Sort of like lemmings to the sea. Gee everyone else is doing it!

[AppyPappy]

I was thinking more of price controls. That would enable prices to be high enough that American companies could compete.

This is sarcasm BTW

[harpseal]

We could pass a law demanding that Americans pay a certain amount for certain items. That would solve the problem.

Why on earth would someone who has purported to be a conservative offer such a ridiclous plan when it is patently against american values whereas tariffs are the classical solution. What do you have against Free Markets? Why can you not allow the Free market tro operate in the USA without foreign interference?

You are of course merely trying to distort the issue away fgrom tariffs by offering what you consider to be a ridiculous counter proposal to achieve the same ends. deal with the issue. If you or anyone thinks tariffs are bad then show the evidence. If the supposition you make is true then surely there are studies that have evidence showing that.

There are regression analysis showing the opposite. If you can find a case where tariffs have inflicted harm on the US economy please bring it to light so we may examine and verify the facts presented and the logic from those facts used to prove the supposition.

In crude language put up or shut up.

[N3WBI3]

Umm I think stopping domestic drilling is terrible and btw I have never voted for a democrat. Now Im not a party schrill as you seem to be but please try to stay on topic rather than throw around insults.

Ill make it easy for you

1) Are you for Drilling in ANWR (I am) to reduce American dependance on forign oil?

2) Are you for finding a way (say tariffs) to keep American independant of forign IT?

[mhking]

This is sarcasm BTW

Sorry - I've been a bit dense this morning....

[rdb3]

After all, he got elected by 500+ votes last time. He might not want to gamble with the votes of millions.

I'd hope that those who call themselves truly American aren't that shortsighted. At any rate, I have two problems with this. One, I can't stand the thought of going to the government to solve problems that government created because government is the problem. And, two, I have a hard time holding someone responsible for something that they didn't do. Where is Congress in all this mess?

I got a lotta livin' to do before I die, and I ain't got time to waste.

[Lazamataz]

Expressing dismay and disgust with the current course of events is worthy of being compared to Hillary™? Did I miss something of substance here?

Naw. T_C_L doesn't seem to have anything of substance to say. He or she sure won't defend these comments: "You say a lot of evil things about our President. I think you need to be held accountable for running your mouth and making these insulting, outragous claims. Like President Bush said, you're either with us or against us. I can only presume you're an enemy of this nation."

In here, T_C_L states that anyone who makes comments that he or she deems 'evil' or 'outrageous' or even 'insulting' must be 'held accountable' as an 'enemy of this nation'.

T_L_C is a friggin' fascist, only without the spiffy uniform.

[mhking]

Why can you not allow the Free market tro operate in the USA without foreign interference?

I've got no problem with a free market, provided you make it a truly free market: get rid of the incentive and visa programs that make it advantageous for firms to outsource in the first damn place.

Truly make it a level playing field.

[1rudeboy]

Foreign companies with domestic plants only end up shipping "our" capital overseas. Why this analysis does not apply to US companies with plants overseas shipping "their" capital here does not trouble the protectionists; one must accept the contradiction as a matter of faith.

[Those_Crazy_Liberals]

"Did I miss something of substance here?"

I continue to ask myself that question as I respond to his posts.

[mhking]

T_L_C is a friggin' fascist, only without the spiffy uniform.

There's a store in Hong Kong selling Nazi-era SS uniforms as fashion items. Perhaps a mail-order catalog might be in order? [g]