[mhking]

I know that a question like this is verbotten by the PC police, but isn't any form of pre-meditated murder a hate crime?

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[cincysux]

Exactly, as a kid when someone beat the crap out of me, the fact they hated my guts was a given. I guess since Manson and his freaks killed white people like themselves, hate wasn't a factor in sticking forks in people.

[dwd1]

By the way, as far I know, pre-meditated murder is usually Murder 1 and a punishable by death...Murder 2 is usually not intentional (heat of the moment, etc)

You might want to check with J.D.'s about manslaughter and felony murder...

By the way, I have been told pre-meditated murder can include doing a murder for hire...It is not a hate crime...It is nothing personnel...As Tom Hagen said in the Godfather, "It's just business."