A Gay Man’s Manifesto (Sobran - good read)

Sobran's ^ | 07/29/2003 | Joseph Sobran

[onedoug]

Decivilizational feelgoodism.

[bigfootbob]

I used to enjoy reading Sobran & Charlie Reese. They've morphed into something strange. I think they have both moved to Vancouver, B.C. and live at the new legal drug injection site or they are simultaniously having LSD flashbacks from their younger days.

[ArcLight]

I hear you. Sobran's morphed into an antiSemitic whackjob, which is sad. The guy was once one of the best. And this amusing column reminds me of those old days.

[jimkress]

BUMP!

[RobbyS]

Great!

[elhombrelibre]

Agreed. This one is a hoot, though.

[Atlas Sneezed]

The Episcopalians are such poor chess players because they turn their queens into bishops.

[gcruse]

This is such a queer article.  But, of course, Joe Sobran is queer.
To me, siding against people who have to deal with suicide terrorists
walking among them,  queers a person's sense of justice.  Of course,
that is what Sobran has come to over the years.  He has made a strange
and queer journey from conservative bulwark to man of hatred.  How
queer is that?

[foolish-one]

And I think he may actually be on to something here. Liberalism often corrupts and coopts the meaning of words to their benefit in public debate (however limited they allow). They relabel something that is naturally offensive with a sweet, desireable word and present it as the defensible norm against which we are now waging a bully war. Wouldn't it be great if we took back this word and frustrated and stiffled them at their own game? We should all declare ourselves from this point forward as gay men in the truest sense of the word.

[gcruse]

You already call yourself foolish and now you want to be gay. The word 'bigot' needs salvaging too, I think. It merely means someone set in their ways.

"a person obstinately or intolerantly devoted to his or her own opinions and prejudices"

How 'bout it?

[King Prout]

Normally I don't care for Sobran, but this is a good article.

[MEGoody]

Bob Hope and Bing Crosby were gay?

This guy is a looney tune. But then, he's gay, so of course he's a looney tune.

[MEGoody]

Jeez, I should have read the whole article before posting.

[Interesting Times]

Try reading the article slowly, pointing your finger at each word.

[Interesting Times]

Q: How many radical feminists does it take to change a light bulb?

A: That's not funny.

[foolish-one]

I may be missing your point here. I'm suggesting taking a word back to it's original meaning and you think I'm bigotted? Please explain exactly what prejudice you have detected or intolerance I have betrayed. Of course, you might have to precisely define intolerance, as well. I have a dictionary here, just in case you don't.

[foolish-one]

Besides, what's wrong with being gay?

[gcruse]

I'm suggesting we salvage the word 'bigot.' The definition is not one of raving haters, just people confirmed in their beliefs and unwilling to be persuaded otherwise. Is that not the sine qua non of religious belief?

[Alouette]

Gosh, I'll bet this nazi nancy-boy is his hero.