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To: nolu chan
[Wlat] While it is true that there seem to be no statements -from- President Lincoln after 12/01/62 whatsoever supporting colonization, we see many where he expresses a desire for rqual and fair treatment of blacks....

It is just as true that Bill Clinton said he did not have sex with that woman.

As I'm sure you know, the latter has absolutely no application to the former.

President Lincoln made many statements supporting equal treatment for blacks, that black soldiers were as good as any, that they should have the vote, and that finding permanent homes for them within the country would relieve a great difficuty..

After 12/01/62, he makes no statements whatsoever about colonization.

Walt

258 posted on 08/16/2003 3:08:29 AM PDT by WhiskeyPapa (Virtue is the uncontested prize.)
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To: WhiskeyPapa
[Walt] After 12/01/62, he makes no statements whatsoever about colonization.

Abraham Lincoln Papers at the Library of Congress.
Transcribed and Annotated by
the Lincoln Studies Center, Knox College. Galesburg, Illinois.

From Edward Bates to Abraham Lincoln, November 30, 1864

Washington, Nov 30 1864.

Honored Sir,

I beg your pardon for having overlooked, in the pressure of business, in my latter days in the office, the duty to give formal answer to your question concerning your power still to retain the Revd Mr Mitchell as your assistant or aid in the matter of executing the several acts of Congress relating to the emigration or Colonizing of the freed blacks.

It is too late for me now to give a formal opinion upon the question, as this is my last day in office. I can only say that, having examined all the acts referred to, I am satisfied that, notwithstanding the act which repeals the appropriation contingently, you still have something to do, under those acts; and therefore, that you have the same right to continue Mr Mitchell that you had to appoint him originally. And I hope it will be done, for he seems to be a good man, of zeal & capacity.

Most respectfully Sir

Your obt servt

Edwd. Bates

261 posted on 08/16/2003 3:33:12 AM PDT by nolu chan
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To: WhiskeyPapa
Lincoln, Cabinet meeting, April 14, 1865
as related by Gideon Welles, then Secretary of the Navy.

Louisiana, he said, had framed and presented one of the best constitutions that had ever been formed. [nc: Blacks were denied the right to vote.] He wished they had permitted negroes who had property, or could read, to vote; but this was a question which they must decide for themselves. Yet some, a very few of our friends, were not willing to let the people of the States determine these questions, but, in violation of first and fundamental principles, would exercise arbitrary power over them. These humanitarians break down all State rights and constitutional rights.

It does not matter what he was saying in public. THIS is what he was doing in the oral office. Just as it did not matter that your other hero, Slick Willie, said in public that he did not have sex with that woman, while in the oral office he was saying, "Yeah baby, yeah baby, oh yeah baby!!" WHAT HE ACTUALLY DID in the oral office is what counts.

264 posted on 08/16/2003 3:55:03 AM PDT by nolu chan
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