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To: dwd1
There is hostility from both sides because there are no easy answers...

I disagree...the answers ARE easy, but no one has the nads to implement them. They all can be summarized by:

People do NOT appreciate what they do not work for

Life's is unfair sometimes...deal with it

Don't live in the past

You are capable of making your own decisions, dont enslave yourself

and naturally, end social welfare/entitlements/AA/abortion(whose "founder" really hated blacks and wished to use abortion as a way of exterminating them) and public education

That all sounds like basic common sense to me.

214 posted on 08/14/2003 8:45:54 AM PDT by BureaucratusMaximus (if we're not going to act like a constitutional republic...lets be the best empire we can be...)
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To: BureaucratusMaximus
I can agree with everything you said but as you stated,

"Life is unfair. Deal with it"

If you have never needed unemployment, medicaid, social security, a loan, then I salute you. For some reason, (and if you like blame it on the liberals) we try to help people that need help...And me personally, each time I was working in downtown LA(making 100K+) and saw the homeless, I always said "There, but for the Grace of God, go I".

I am sure that you know about the Great Depression. Hoover was voted out because the people in this country needed help and leadership and felt he could not provide it. They also felt he had no empathy or sympathy for their situation. Sometimes, things may look a little different from 1600 Pennsylvania than from 622 West Second in Littlefield, TX. I think as a society, we learned during the Great Depression to pull together to solve problems. I don't think Government is always the answer but from what I have heard, people legitimately needed help. There will always be people who try to cheat the system...You see it on Wall Street, you see it in Texas at the Former Enron Building and you are going to see it in South Central Los Angeles in the projects...


Public education...We may have problems in this country but you are going to have a little trouble convincing me that we are better off without public education... If you can send your kids to public school, God Bless you, but I don't know if I want to end up with well educated, well dressed children that have to have a body guard accompany them to the mall to protect them from the kids that have no education and no hope for a better future. (or do you think that we should convert to that caste system they use in India?)

These are the prices we pay for having a country that has problems but we are doing better than just about everybody else.

By the way, how do you legislate people appreciating what they work for, dealing with and accepting perceived unfairness (no more civil litigation), not living in the past (outlaw history classes and speaking about anything that happened before 1964), require all persons to make their own decisions and take responsibility for their actions (outlaw guidance counselors, parenting, peer pressure, social pressure)

These easy answers sound more like moral objectives which I believe in personally but believe you might have a little trouble enforcing on a population of 250M people...

The Taliban tried to impose moral objectives...At one time, the Catholic Church, the Puritans, the Fascists, the Nazis, and the feminists..All have tried to impose moral objectives......It did not go well...

The only community I can think of who has been able to successfully live with the objectives you speak of would be the Amish...

You can say "don't live in the past"... I am just making sure that you don't mean "It never happened!" versus "We need to learn from the past, not repeat it, and make the future better!"

I have no need to bring up the past every time the present gets tough, but last time I checked, most people make decisions based on their experience (I have not stuck my hand in the fire in quite some time)



216 posted on 08/14/2003 9:19:01 AM PDT by dwd1 (M. h. D. (Master of Hate and Discontent))
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