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To: wardaddy
I think the social programs would have never occured were it not for the Great Depression....

It is why I say as a moderate...We have to give everyone the basics to take their shot at the dream... If they don't step up, their loss...

Bush I and Hoover never learned a very important lesson.... It is the economy....

I hope this guy gets it right...
144 posted on 08/13/2003 1:37:29 PM PDT by dwd1 (M. h. D. (Master of Hate and Discontent))
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To: dwd1; Non-Sequitur
I'm ambivalent about governmental interference in the economy other than tax cuts/repeals and tarriffs/trade.

Many a nation has jettisoned a successful war leader....Churchill is a great example. I hope we don't repeat that.

After my comment earlier about only property owning males voting I did some research about whether or nor freed blacks could vote anywhere in the US prior to 1865. I was only able to find a lengthy article by Houghton-Mifflin which infers that the mullatto class from Planter/Slave unions in cotton state urban areas could. I could not find any other evidence anywhere else. I was also suprised that there were more freed blacks in the South than North at the time. The White and Slave population were growing faster btw yet freed blacks were 9% of the total US black population and 60% of those resided South and the mullatto class were the best educated...Frederick Douglass notwithstanding. Further, those mullatto classes still form the genesis of many black upper class throughout Southern urban areas....New Orleans and Atlanta in particular.

Maybe NS will know about black voting rights up north in antebellum days and have a link. I was simply curious and had never researched the matter and my comment about property owners voting at the time of our founding made me think about the question.

http://college.hmco.com/history/readerscomp/rcah/html/rc_033600_freenegroes.htm
148 posted on 08/13/2003 1:56:54 PM PDT by wardaddy
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