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To: kkindt
Please read the facts regarding red-light cameras.

http://www.highwayrobbery.net/redlightcamsJudgeMathewsReport.html

While each life is precious and I certianly do not want anyone to die in car accidents, sometimes they are just that accidents. Other times they are drunks, and I have no excuse for drunk drivers. Throw them in jail. But, you kinda sound like a gun-grabbing nut, with your rhetoric about the babies and the children.

66 posted on 08/13/2003 9:54:50 AM PDT by CollegeRepublican
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To: CollegeRepublican
I might sound like a gun grabbing nut but I am against gun grabbing hot heads as much as I am against red light runners who think their precious few seconds they are saving are worth more than the lives of the little ones they eventually will slaughter. If you are a red light runner - if you speed up when you see yellow instead of slowing down - then you are a potential killer and are just as bad as a gun grabbing nut. Video cameras taking pictures of us when we come to intersections take pictures of all of us - it is not discrimination. And those who like to speed through red lights will obviously be against these cameras and join forces with those of you who are opposed to having them get ticket after ticket. I am not saying you are one of these red light runners but think how they are just as bad as gun grabbing nuts and actually red light runners kill more people than gun grabbing nuts do.
67 posted on 08/13/2003 12:31:12 PM PDT by kkindt (knightforhire.com)
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To: CollegeRepublican
I gave up. My conscience that helps me to distinguish right from wrong and judge good government from bad no longer permitted me to debate kkindt.
U.S. Develops Urban Surveillance System
      Posted by kkindt to optimistically_conservative
On News/Activism 08/13/2003 3:27 PM EDT #185 of 185

Last word - we are both sinners - conceived that way - all of us are. Proof? Who taught us to tell lies? Comes naturally to all of us. So do all immoral desires come natural. We do not have to be taught how to be law breakers or immoral persons but we do have to be taught how to obey the law. The government has been instituted by God to punish us for breaking His laws. Our government may not know this but it was. So as one who believes this way I don't care what the constitution of the United States says at this point about cameras taking our pictures in public because if it doesn't permit it according to the supreme court then I want the court changed or the constitution changed so it will permit it. I have a right to try to have this view incorporated into the constitution if it isn't there already.

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68 posted on 08/13/2003 12:41:49 PM PDT by optimistically_conservative (Can't prove a negative? You're not stupid. Prove it!)
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