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To: kkindt
It is called incrementalism,a policy or advocacy of a policy of political or social change by degrees. I pefer to fight ever little encroachment on my liberties and freedoms. Here in Maryland they have traffic cameras and the freedom loving safety concience State shortened the time that yellow lights were activated so that they could reap more profit from tickets. This actually causes more accidents and makes more people than necessary break the law and if you are on camera how can you deny that you broke the law? In the eyes of the state no one is innocent, everyone is a potential criminal.

Ask the boy in Anne Arundel county Maryland that was shot in the face by an FBI agent for following directions if all the police do is arrest and convict criminals. People make mistakes, police make mistakes, but I don't think that the police need cameras everywhere to arrest and convict criminals.
47 posted on 08/12/2003 2:20:13 PM PDT by CollegeRepublican
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To: CollegeRepublican
...shortened the time that yellow lights were activated so that they could reap more profit from tickets. This actually causes more accidents and makes more people than necessary break the law and if you are on camera how can you deny that you broke the law? In the eyes of the state no one is innocent, everyone is a potential criminal.

Fight the law with the law. Unmanned cameras don't hold up in court. Also challenge the length of the traffic light. Often when lights are very short, you will find that they are illegally calibrated to be short. You may not get anyone in the city fined but you will find that the light will be set to the minimum duration at least. Followup on it. See that they carry out the change. Go to a local news watchdog.

"Fighting" means actually fighting back, not just talking about it.

49 posted on 08/12/2003 2:45:44 PM PDT by weegee
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To: CollegeRepublican
incrementalism? Are you trying to argue that although putting up a camera to catch speeders is not against the constitution it is a step in that direction? This doesn't make sense since every single power we give to our government is a power we could take away like we did in 1776. We give the government power - if they can't be trusted with it - we take it away. That's the way it works. What I hear is that people who like to SPEED UP when they see yellow lights don't like it because they are getting ticketed. I say HURRAY!!! YIPEE! I despite red light runners. THey have killed babies and children and are no better than potential killers. THe more tickets they get the better off our children will be. Perhaps you haven't had anyone in your family killed or maimed by a red light runner but many have and you ought to be more concerned about them than you are about your liberty to not be seen running a red light or if you don't run them then you ought to be happy to see those who do so habitually having their habit busted.

If they have shortened the yellow so as to get more tickets and make more money then I say argue that way and get them to lengthen the yellow BUT I DOUBT IT is that way. WHEN YOU SEE YELLOW it means put on the brake not step on the gas.
63 posted on 08/13/2003 8:04:57 AM PDT by kkindt (knightforhire.com)
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