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No Jail for Teen Who Torched Bird (Sick Alert!)
NewDay ^ | 08/12/03 | Jennifer Sinco Kelleher

Posted on 08/12/2003 10:18:29 AM PDT by bedolido

For using hair spray and a lighter to torch and kill his pet parakeet, a Shoreham teen was sentenced to complete 280 hours of community service and five years probation this morning in Riverhead, despite a deluge of letters from animal rights activists seeking jail time.

Timothy Guider, 18, pleaded guilty to aggravated cruelty to an animal in May, admitting that he set the bird ablaze, knowing it would die, during a New Year's Eve party at his home while his parents were out of town.

Suffolk County Court Judge C. Randall Hinrichs could have sentenced Guider to 60 days in jail but said that after reading a psychiatric evaluation report, he was satisfied the teen is not a threat to society. Calling the torching an "isolated incident," Hinrichs said he hopes Guider matures when he enters college this fall. Guider was granted youthful offender status, which allows his criminal record to be expunged if he completes his probation and community service successfully.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; US: New York
KEYWORDS: bird; jail; no; roastparakeet; teen; torched; who
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1 posted on 08/12/2003 10:18:30 AM PDT by bedolido
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To: bedolido
I detest animal cruelty as much as the next guy...but we must be careful what we allow the government to control...

Do you think hunting and fishing qualify as humane???

Keeping pets in cages??? Dog sledding??? Dog and horse racing???

2 posted on 08/12/2003 10:21:33 AM PDT by Onelifetogive
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To: Onelifetogive
I know what you mean, but playing the "hair spray and lighter" game on a caged animal really fits most people's definitions of "inhumane."

In fact, I don't think you'll find a rancher, hunter, or even a butcher who thinks otherwise.

3 posted on 08/12/2003 10:24:19 AM PDT by dead (Perdicaris alive or Raisuli dead!)
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To: Onelifetogive
I think I am OK with the government controlling flamethrowers in a dont-torch-your-parakeet context.
4 posted on 08/12/2003 10:26:28 AM PDT by thoughtomator (Are we conservatives, or are we Republicans?)
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To: Howlin; Ed_NYC; MonroeDNA; widgysoft; Springman; Timesink; dubyaismypresident; Grani; coug97; ...
For using hair spray and a lighter to torch and kill his pet parakeet

Watched too many James Bond flicks....

Just damn.

If you want on the new list, FReepmail me. This IS a high-volume PING list...

5 posted on 08/12/2003 10:28:08 AM PDT by mhking
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To: thoughtomator
I think I am OK with the government controlling flamethrowers in a dont-torch-your-parakeet context.

How about dropping live animals into boiling water?

6 posted on 08/12/2003 10:30:44 AM PDT by Onelifetogive
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To: Onelifetogive
but we must be careful what we allow the government to control...

Hunh?

Killing an animal to eat it is one thing; torching a pet bird to get your rocks off is something completely different.

Maybe a few weeks in a jail cell with Bubba would give the sorry little sh!t something to think about next time he decides to torture something in a cage...

7 posted on 08/12/2003 10:32:04 AM PDT by dfrussell
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To: dead
Absolutely.I wouldn't let this boy baby sit for me.This was sick.
8 posted on 08/12/2003 10:34:56 AM PDT by MEG33
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To: dfrussell
Killing an animal to eat it is one thing; torching a pet bird to get your rocks off is something completely different.

You think there is no in-between? Sport fishermen? sport hunters? Horse racing ends up killing many horses - no one eats them.

I am not defending the torture of animals...but we can't even get the government to stop the wonton destruction of unborn humans.

9 posted on 08/12/2003 10:47:38 AM PDT by Onelifetogive
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To: bedolido
Would he have gotten in trouble if he had just eaten the bird afterward? Sounds like it would've been a quick death.
10 posted on 08/12/2003 10:51:55 AM PDT by honeygrl (I reserve the right to take any statement and copy it out of context.)
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To: dead
"I know what you mean, but playing the "hair spray and lighter" game on a caged animal really fits most people's definitions of "inhumane.""

But don't you think the bird likely died almost instantly?
11 posted on 08/12/2003 10:53:09 AM PDT by honeygrl (I reserve the right to take any statement and copy it out of context.)
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To: Onelifetogive
Oh please..this is about burning a bird for fun.
12 posted on 08/12/2003 10:54:36 AM PDT by MEG33
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To: dfrussell
"Maybe a few weeks in a jail cell with Bubba would give the sorry little sh!t something to think about next time he decides to torture something in a cage... "

Soooo... killing a bird means you deserve to be anally raped as a teen? You frighten me more than the boy who killed the bird does.

13 posted on 08/12/2003 10:55:57 AM PDT by honeygrl (I reserve the right to take any statement and copy it out of context.)
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To: Onelifetogive
What makes you think he's going to stop with animals?
14 posted on 08/12/2003 10:58:19 AM PDT by mewzilla
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To: bedolido
He'll get his one of these days.....little moron....
15 posted on 08/12/2003 10:58:42 AM PDT by geege
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To: mewzilla
I agree. It pains me to side with the animal rights nuts on anything, but a stable upstanding member of society doesn't set animals on fire.
16 posted on 08/12/2003 11:00:36 AM PDT by exile
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To: mewzilla
What makes you think he's going to stop with animals?

You favor punishing someone for what they might do in the future?

17 posted on 08/12/2003 11:01:25 AM PDT by from occupied ga (Your government is your most dangerous enemy, and Bush is no conservative)
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To: MEG33
"Oh please..this is about burning a bird for fun. "

People fish for fun. And after they catch the fish, they rip out the hook and throw it back. The fish is then likely to die from infection where the hook was. How is this any worse? I don't think it deserves 5yrs probation and all that community service unless they plan to punish anyone who hunts for sport while they are at it.

(and i'm not a PETA person, just the opposite)
18 posted on 08/12/2003 11:01:55 AM PDT by honeygrl (I reserve the right to take any statement and copy it out of context.)
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To: honeygrl
Piffle
19 posted on 08/12/2003 11:04:04 AM PDT by MEG33
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To: from occupied ga
People who abuse animals, especially in their youth, often go on to commit more heinous acts, often against people. All I'm saying is that this kid should have gotten some serious jail time and then monitoring.
20 posted on 08/12/2003 11:04:56 AM PDT by mewzilla
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