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To: harpseal
"Excuse me I said nothing about imposing anything on anyone."

When did you decide that imposing protective tariffs was a bad idea?

"I did not advocate the government doing anything I merely said that Boeing has an enlightened self interest in paying a good wage to its employees so that there will be a healthy American economy."

So, you believe Boeing has a social obligation beyond making a profit?

"Are you so hateful of people who work for a living that you feel there should be some mandate they get a lower wage?"

I'm not the slightest bit hateful of people who work for a living. In fact, I've been defending their interest in access to low cost, quality merchandise.

"If you are going to mandate such a system then I would suggest that that is the epitome of sociailism. acompany should be free to pay a market wager or any wage they wish over market to their employees. If they see paying more than the supply and demand figure in order to get more loyal happier employees that is their business."

Then why advocate protective tariffs?
351 posted on 08/14/2003 7:00:47 PM PDT by DugwayDuke
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To: DugwayDuke
"Excuse me I said nothing about imposing anything on anyone."

The discussion at this point was focused on the decision being made by Boeing as to what wages to pay their employees. When did you decide that imposing protective tariffs was a bad idea?

I did not make this decision but I was going to the topic of the moment which was what factors should wise manangement consider in deciding what wage to offer empluyees to attract what will then be loyal employees presumin managemnet decides taht such loyalty is in their interest.

"I did not advocate the government doing anything I merely said that Boeing has an enlightened self interest in paying a good wage to its employees so that there will be a healthy American economy."

So, you believe Boeing has a social obligation beyond making a profit?

No I did not say that. Would you take the same inference had I said it is in Boeings enlightened self interest to use sound accounting principles and figure in the risk factor incalculating return on investment as part of their decision making process.

"Are you so hateful of people who work for a living that you feel there should be some mandate they get a lower wage?"

I'm not the slightest bit hateful of people who work for a living. In fact, I've been defending their interest in access to low cost, quality merchandise.Since I was advocating that Boeing act in its self interest in paying wages that are relatively lucrative for loyal employees the only inference I could draw from your statement was you were for mandating via government edict maximum wages for jobs at Boeing. Now as to your allegation that you are for people able to get low cost quality merchandise. They will be unable to do that without tariffs in place because wo many will be unemployed that taxes will have to rise to cover the benefuts that will be paid to them taht they will vote themselves.

"If you are going to mandate such a system then I would suggest that that is the epitome of sociailism. acompany should be free to pay a market wager or any wage they wish over market to their employees. If they see paying more than the supply and demand figure in order to get more loyal happier employees that is their business."

Then why advocate protective tariffs?

Because tariffs are against any socialism as anyone who has studied the history of economic knows. They predate socialist theory by many years. They work to encourage Capitalism. Are you really going to try to argue that American in the period from 1780 to 1800 was a Sociailist state? Good luck.

Now tell me again why Boeing should not be free to pay what they can freely negotiate with their workers. AT what level do the wage controls stop. Will you let the company pay more for one skill than another? can the company raise the rate paid for certain skills that they do not immediately find? You are the one who criticzed my advise to Boeing to act in their enlightened self interest.

Some other advice to Boeing in your enlightened self interest continue R&D for the future as it will pay you great future benefits. Do the R&D even though you do not see what the return on investment will be when you start the project and can not accurately predict the results.

352 posted on 08/14/2003 7:34:40 PM PDT by harpseal (Stay well - Stay safe - Stay armed - Yorktown)
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