[lelio]

"If someone does something really well, we want the person who's going to perform a similar function abroad to learn from the master. Then the person in the United States will continue to do their job just as before," Dundas said.

... Dundas said while holding back a laugh.

[ Texas Instruments ]: "You have a declining pool from which to draw, and more of those people are foreign nationals," Larson said.

Care to back that up with any figures? We don't have enough smart people in our country. What's that? Oh we don't have enough smart people that want to work for $5k a year.

[usnret99]

The out-sourced job's are in India not the United States. So Taxes are not paid in the US.

[dalebert]

Bump to read later.

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"They called it 'knowledge acquisition,'" the Wilmington, Del., resident said.

Information Technology is now a commodity, like Mexican laborers.

[StatesEnemy]

And some labor experts say out-of-work programmers should stop complaining, and focus on their own re-training

Well gee... it would be nice to first pay of the loans of the last re-training.

Ohh well, I'll stay in default.

[clamper1797]

I had the unparallel pleasure of training my H1B replacement at Motorola before my lay-off. We actually became friends. He told me the stories about his time at Teiniman Square as he was one of the protesters. He was a nice guy and it was NOT HIS fault that he was an H1B. I would have done the same in his shoes.

That being said ... it is immoral, unethical and UN-AMERICAN to replace American workers with cheap foreign labor especially on our home soil.

[nightdriver]

"With U.S. colleges graduating fewer U.S.-born engineers and the population of foreign-born science graduates mushrooming, TI has to look overseas for talent, spokesman Dan Larson said."

This is the attitude that frosts me more than anything else.

Engineers are out of work all over, not just IT types and programmers. Who can blame bright young college students for NOT majoring in engineering and computer science when all they have to look forward to is competition with those that work for $5/hr. or less?

[RightWhale]

On the one hand it seems like an immoral practice for a company to force workers to train replacements. On the other hand, workers in IT have a reputation for jumping ship often and frequently for higher-paying jobs.

Here's a typical story: A worker was at a company making X dollars per hour. He took a new job at a new company for X + 1 dollars per hour. 8 months later his new job was deleted from the org chart and the worker went back to his old company to get his old job back, but the job was, of course, taken, so now instead of having two jobs to choose from, the worker has no job to choose from. Whose fault? Do Americans have a natural born right to a job even after showing zero loyalty?

[nutmeg]

FYI

[chimera]

And some labor experts say out-of-work programmers should stop complaining, and focus on their own re-training, just like the Rust Belt assembly line workers whose factory jobs migrated to Mexico and Asia in the 1980s.

We told the factory workers to get retrained or educated when they lost their jobs. What did we tell them to go into? Computers. So now what do we tell people who went into IT and are now out of a job? What's the next thing we tell them to retrain for? Flipping burgers? Filing lawsuits? Writing insurance policies to sell to an unemployed, bankrupt workforce? Become financial planners for people who have no income? IOW, retrain to do what?

[bedolido]

That's what's happening to me right now... we're training some programmers from India and our Price Maintenance system is being out-sourced to India by the end of this year. I work for a major grocery retailer (It's Your Store) and it's maddening.

About 2 years ago we had some layoffs. Before the released the layoff list, they bullet proofed the windows of the CEO and repainted all the "Private Parking" areas for the big-wigs.

This is really bad news for high tech programmers.

[bedolido]

We're getting nothing in return. The companies that do it are getting programmers at $5.00 a week (not sure what the difference really is). The USA Corporations believe they'll save money buy out-sourcing. A major job cost in all businesses are employees and their benefits.