Bustamante Must Not Win - How to Beat Him

8-11-03

[steve50]

Fuuny how when Arnold wasn't running there was no problem, now he's being pushed as the only R who can win.

From what I've seen of his positions it would be a damn shallow victory.

[Dante3]

Bustamante would be a total disaster. I'd vogte for him only if he were up against Flynt.

[tallhappy]

The salient point is that the dems have coalesced around one candidate to maximise their vote.

A split Republican ticket with no Democrats would win. A split ticket with only one Democrat won't.

[Digger]

So Cruz wins. Then BK the state, stop the handouts - now the freeloaders will see just how compassionate their dems are - and then the next election we will vote in the primary a real conservative who will win. We may even clean up in the Cal senate & legislature. Let's just stick with true conservative candidates & one day we will prevail.

[onyx]

Motor-Voter will come into play, "big time," if Gray signs the bill authorizing illegal aliens the right to obtain CA driver's licenses!

I shudder to think of how many of the "grateful unto Gray" might actually vote!

Cut-off date for registration in this recall election is September 22. Gray has plenty of time to "buy votes."

[Dane]

From what I've seen of his positions it would be a damn shallow victory.

JMO, but any "victory" will always be a shallow victory to you.

To me a victory is a victory, and you work from there.

But how could you work from "there" since you it seems you are so hell bent in burning the bridges.

[freekitty]

Bustamente is still a part of of the administration that sunk California into the ocean. I don't see where he did anything to help.

If anything, he and his organization, La Raza, probably helped tank California.

[freekitty]

California wants change. They need to get rid of the entire adminstration; not just Davis.

[jsbankston]

The choices to replace Davis are very gray indeed.
We have a very liberal Kennedy Republican sucking up most of the GOP Vote while Simon flounders at 5% in the polls. The Democrats are running a Hispanic who will win 80% of the Hispanic vote and win the election with ease if Davis is recalled.

Perhaps the best option would be to vote NO on the recall to prevent Cruz from being elected.

[tallhappy]

You make good points. Still even Schwarzenegger is better than Gray or Cruz.

[steve50]

To me a victory is a victory, and you work from there.

You sound like one of those women who, desperate for a husband, marry the wrong man and think they'll "change him".

McClintock seems to be a fairly sound conservative. I'd think he would get some support, if only to pull Arnie a little right. Seems to be a lot of room on that side of him.

But go ahead and take the lowest common denominator route, it's worked so well the last 50 years. Kalifornia probably does need stricter gun laws.

[GraniteStateConservative]

They should wait until closer to Election Day to ask others to drop out. This is still a campaign against Gray Davis. Give him many targets to hit, not fewer.

[Dane]

You sound like one of those women who, desperate for a husband, marry the wrong man and think they'll "change him".

Oh sheesh stop the old and tired "battered wife" syndrome malcontent arguement.

If you would actually look at recent Califonia election results, it is the "death before electiblity" Republicans who are the battered ones.

Lundgren in 98, and Simon running against an inept Davis in 02.

[Dane]

If you would actually look at recent Califonia election results, it is the "death before electiblity" Republicans who are the battered ones

BTW, steve it seems that you are the one, you wishes to get "battered" again, IMO.

But you can always say to yourself, "I have a black eye and loss in the electoral arena", but I have my pride.

JMO, but it seems you get an mental orgasm on that type of rhetoric.

[.cnI redruM]

1) 40% is not assured. It is likely only if the population voting in the recall is a representative sample of the state as a whole. Also, that population would have to vote in accordance with their previous voting patterns.

2) Turnout is a big Dem problem. Why should the NTA man phones for Gov. Gray?

3) Bustamante has an association problem he's already trying to kick. As Lt. Gov. he claims to have met with Govenuh Gray about 3 times in the last 4+ years.

The Dems are in a world of hurt in Ca. They've ruined the state and it's coming home to roost. Mulholland wasn't speaking figuratively when he spoke of using real bullets.

[tallhappy]

I agree.

Yet, even at 30% Cruz can win with split vote.

[Consort]

So Cruz wins.

Very probable and very bad. It will not convert liberal freeloaders; it will create more of them. If necessary, take the shallow victory (if we don't win, then they do); take the lesser of two evils (yeah, it's still evil); don't wait all your life for someone to "earn" your vote; forget about principle and conscience — they may be warped, so why take the chance.

[MHGinTN]

Time for sinkEmperor clintoon to run for CA governor. Can the dems in CA make changes to the CA law in order to get him on the ballot? Let's talk this up ... distract attention from the dem dipwads trying to get attention in their 'sprint for nomination'.

[ScottinSacto]

The legislation, SB 60, is not an Urgency statute, so it would not go into effect until Jan 1, 2004 if signed. You are very correct about this scenario playing out in future elections, so we gotta win this one for sure!